Dragon Ball Multiverse Tournament Fights Tier List
Oct 14, 2023 3:50:09 GMT
Post by drewsaga on Oct 14, 2023 3:50:09 GMT
Sorry for the months late reply.
But from what I get, If that's true than how come Gohan was so much stronger than SSJ3 Goku in the Buu Saga? Super Buu was way stronger than Kid Buu for example but Gohan picked Super Buu apart while Goku struggled against Kid Buu during their battles. I know half-Saiyans have more potential but by THAT much? Seems silly that it would be that large of a difference I figured Mystic Goku and Mystic Vegeta would be closer to or on par with Super Buu (which means Gohan still dominates in terms of physical strength but not by such a tremendous amount..
Then the part where SSJ3 Vegeta quickly beats a guy who might be stronger than Mystic Gohan in DBM (Cell)..
Chances are if Goku had time to train he could probably surpass Super Buu and close the gap somewhat with Gohan. Gohan would likely still have the edge just based on him always having more potential than Goku, but Goku could probably get it to the ballpark.
That's kind of what I meant, that Goku and Vegeta here should be within the ball park of Mystic Gohan otherwise their improvements since 20 years has been extremely slow.
But it's odd that both would be considered SSJ3-level yet the gap is so big. I kind of thought that Gohan's Mystic powerup and Goku and Vegeta's faux-Mystic powerup would be on a different level because even Super Buu was on a different level compared to SSJ3 Goku.
Plus according to Salagir, base Saiyans can't match Frieza so it's kind of implied that for a large power difference to make sense, this new form has to be a higher level than SSJ3 (not in that it's as astronomical of a leap as SSJ2 is to SSJ3, but it's a large enough one).
"Goku had to grind to first catch up to Gohan’s level at the Cell Games"
Goku wasn't far behind Gohan actually. Gohan's SSJ barely did any better against Cell than Goku if at all (in fact, he did worse because he isn't the fighter Goku is) until he unlocked SSJ2 that is. But I am sure Goku unlocked SSJ2 in the afterlife not long after he died and spent years training to get SSJ3.