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Post by Eldagusto on Jan 27, 2019 8:59:03 GMT
So say if the Z Fighters didn’t Loose Yamaha and they all got to dogpile on Napa without Vegeta interfering, do you think it would have been enough to take Napa? Could they do it with a few members missing? Or do you think they would be overwhelmed? What if Yajirobe helped?
I really wonder this. I like the proposition by Salagir that Napa was around 7k because he still felt he had a chance against Goku who was 8k. And even though Goku was whomping him he admitted Napa was tough and beating him would take all day without Kaioken. And that Napa may actually have been stronger when he was raising Veggy but is actually slightly weaker with age.
Myself I feel Pickles was tough and if he went all out he was probably able to output on the 4K range. I like to think if Pickles, Krillin and Tien all fought Napa Napa would have fought more seriously. And they may have been able to kill him even without Yamcha if they dogpiled em.
Like if Krillin and Pickles’ plan with Gohan succeeded they may have killed him, or maybe not maybe Napa would have survived the Combo with Injuries. But imagine Tien was in fighting form and stood in for Gohan with a full power Kikoho, or a Kamikaze Kikoho? Or with Yamcha helping with Gohan and Chiaozu as Support, like Chiaozu fogging his mind or slow Him with TK and Gohan just Long Ranging it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 20:47:11 GMT
I think the Z fighters could have a chance of winning if they were all able to work together. It's hard to tell since Nappa didn't fight seriously until Goku arrived. If Yamcha, Tien, and Choatzu were still alive and they all attacked as a team, Nappa may have felt threatened enough to go all out. Due to the power difference, the Kikoho or Special Beam Cannon may have been the only techniques they have that are strong enough to kill a fully powered-up Nappa.
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Post by Son Pan on Jan 28, 2019 2:54:26 GMT
Nappa was cocky and made some careless mistakes during the battle. He mostly survived because he was just plain stronger than them. He needed Vegeta to tell him not take Krillin's Destructo Disk head on, which even Vegeta said was stupid. I also side on the Nappa was 6-7K as well just based on how when he got focused he was able to do much better against Goku. If Nappa was serious he likely would have easily beaten the gang, but given how careless and cocky he was it is very possible the gang working together could have killed him before he could have gone all out. If the gang came up with a good enough distraction they may have even be able to stun Nappa long enough for Destructo Disk cutting him down and earning a victory, perhaps with some losses on their part still, but maybe with a win. Well a win until they have to face Vegeta who is much stronger and smarter.
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Post by Axalon on Feb 3, 2019 19:32:51 GMT
Assuming that Vegeta doesn't interfere at all (and I mean not even talking) then yes, they could've defeated Nappa. Relatively easy in fact, since as it was already mentioned Vegeta had to tell Nappa to dodge Krillin's kienzan. If he hadn't, Krillin would've straight up decapitated him.
But, if Vegeta stands on the sidelines and is allowed to yell coaching advice then I think Nappa could win.
"Don't let the Namekian stand there for five minutes charging that attack you idiot!" "DOOOOOOODDDDDGGGEEEEE the disk you moron!" "Throw a Saibaman at that one guy with the long hair."
Etc.
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