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Post by darrieloni on Jan 28, 2021 22:06:34 GMT
A friend and I have been discussing the Super KaioKen recently.
Specifically, we were discussing how RoF would go if Beerus woke up years later, and I was trying to come up with ways for the Z-Fighters to win. This led to the following question:
If SSJ3 Goku tried to use the KaioKen while using a suicide move like Majin Vegeta's, could he use the KK to make the suicide move stronger since he's dying anyways?
Would the move simply be cancelled? Would the KK not activate? Would the explosion actually be made stronger without any added downside since the user was dying anyways?
I would like to see what you all think.
In your opinion, how would Super KaioKen kill its user?
This is my first post with a poll, and after I clicked "add more" to add a single option, it ended up with a bunch of blank entries. I hope those don't show up in the poll itself.
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Post by canraid on Apr 2, 2021 0:48:30 GMT
Quoting the Dragon Ball wiki:
> In Dragon Ball Super, it was mentioned by Old Kai that using Kaio-ken alongside Super Saiyan is almost impossible or rather lethal because the intense emotional turmoil caused by the Super Saiyan transformation would not allow precise ki control to survive the technique. Only a fully controlled and calm Ki could be combined with the Kaio-ken, as it happens with the Super Saiyan Blue. In the anime, according to Goku, using Kaio-ken alongside the Super Saiyan forms would be too overwhelming on the body, due to the forms using a lot of stamina, and would most likely result in immediate death. However, when Goku obtained the Super Saiyan Blue form, which required perfect innate ki control and a calm mind, utilizing the Kaio-ken technique alongside it became possible.
Going by that, Goku would presumably just drop like fly the moment he stacks the Kaioken ontop of any Super Saiyan transformation, or if he is lucky ''only'' break his entire body. So in that mentioned scenario, Gokus body would immediately break. Beerus would probably just be weirded out by the fact that his opponent just alt+f4'd (until Whis explains him what occured). So I think Gokus body would just give up on him.
Unrelated to the question, I think a Super Kaioken could maybe be pulled off if Goku had a dead body. Whilst it would equally drain his stamina, I think there would be a small windows of opportunity to get in a big hit with the Super Kaioken.
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Post by supergojita3 on May 4, 2021 2:42:40 GMT
Quoting the Dragon Ball wiki: > In Dragon Ball Super, it was mentioned by Old Kai that using Kaio-ken alongside Super Saiyan is almost impossible or rather lethal because the intense emotional turmoil caused by the Super Saiyan transformation would not allow precise ki control to survive the technique. Only a fully controlled and calm Ki could be combined with the Kaio-ken, as it happens with the Super Saiyan Blue. In the anime, according to Goku, using Kaio-ken alongside the Super Saiyan forms would be too overwhelming on the body, due to the forms using a lot of stamina, and would most likely result in immediate death. However, when Goku obtained the Super Saiyan Blue form, which required perfect innate ki control and a calm mind, utilizing the Kaio-ken technique alongside it became possible. Going by that, Goku would presumably just drop like fly the moment he stacks the Kaioken ontop of any Super Saiyan transformation, or if he is lucky ''only'' break his entire body. So in that mentioned scenario, Gokus body would immediately break. Beerus would probably just be weirded out by the fact that his opponent just alt+f4'd (until Whis explains him what occured). So I think Gokus body would just give up on him. Unrelated to the question, I think a Super Kaioken could maybe be pulled off if Goku had a dead body. Whilst it would equally drain his stamina, I think there would be a small windows of opportunity to get in a big hit with the Super Kaioken. yup. this sounds about right. I always figured ssj and kaioken could be used in the fpssj state goku had in the cell games, and would have to retrain himself to handle it, but I don't mind this explanation at all, and it is backed up by the official lore, so my head canon pretty much goes out the window on this. Hats off bro. |
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