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Post by The Masterman on Nov 1, 2016 20:45:13 GMT
For several reasons...
Gohan could have hooked up with a woman and had Saiyan children and raised them into fighters, having Roshi and Popo help and abusing the Hyperbolic Time Chamber if it's possible to change how long you can be inside.
If it's possible to change the length of time you can spend in there then have Popo raise the next gen of Saiyans for a whole week inside so when they come out they're at Goten's age and possibly stronger.
If not then try not to leave it up to just Trunks, the HTC can still do two years for both of them so it would still be useful.
Also the Z Warriors all died fighting so they should at least of gotten a pass to go to King Kai's so why didn't Gohan try to get in touch with them to get ahold of the nemekians? He could go to Fortuneteller Baba's...
He could've gone on a space adventure to find New Namek as well.
Discuss~
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Post by camillus on Nov 1, 2016 21:47:34 GMT
I believe Gohan hadn't known about the chamber before Goku introduced it.
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Post by The Masterman on Nov 1, 2016 21:54:08 GMT
I believe Gohan hadn't known about the chamber before Goku introduced it. Oh yeah Gohan didn't go to Kami's lookout till the cell saga... That blame can be put on the dead Z Warriors who could've used King Kai to tell Gohan where to go.
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Post by Son Pan on Nov 1, 2016 23:45:56 GMT
Gohan not having any children is probably due to a combination of things. He could have been too busy training to meet anyone. He didn't want to meet anyone because he didn't want to make them worry for his safety. The darkest option is Gohan did meet someone and they did have a child, but they were both killed in one the cyborg rampages. No one really knew when or where the cyborgs were going to attack. If Gohan did have a family they could have easily been killed or the fear that they could appear anywhere at anytime could make him too afraid to attempt to have a family.
I doubt he knew about the time chamber. It is simply possible Popo never told him about it. Goku was the one who thought to use it in the first place to get quick training in.
It's possible that the Z-fighters chose not to go to King Kai's this time around. Piccolo was killed as well, meaning Kami and the Dragon Balls were gone too. Without the possibility of coming back to life in sight they may have simply chose to move on to Heaven instead of training with King Kai again. Vegeta got sent to Hell. He committed too many sins to have been allowed to keep his body to train with the Kais or move on to Heaven. King Kai has the whole Northern sector of the universe to watch over. Without any of the Z-fighters coming to him he simply never learned that Earth was under siege. Since 17 and 18 were only a problem for Earth not the universe they simply were too small to catch the notice of the other gods. Baba may have either been killed or left Earth for her own safety.
Gohan and Bulma had no idea where New Namek was and probably didn't know how to contact King Kai for help in finding it. Without that knowledge they would be forced to wander through space aimlessly. That is a dangerous risk to take. They could run out of fuel or food. They would need to know where inhabited planets that are space faring to help them restock on food or refuel etc. Goku not teaching anyone Instant Transmission bit them all in the ass. If at least Gohan knew it he could have gone to Otherworld on his own and got help from King Kai.
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Post by R I P I R I U S on Nov 26, 2016 16:48:10 GMT
But again, he would need to tap into King Kai's energy unless Goku or the others are on King Kai's planet. IT would be rendered useless.
One good points though, that Goku never taught anyone Instant Transmission. He came back after 7 years only to teach the kids Fusion Dance. I wonder why.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 4, 2016 18:48:29 GMT
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 5, 2016 1:23:23 GMT
Yeah, I'm not clicking on those links.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 5, 2016 5:19:49 GMT
Yeah, I'm not clicking on those links. Why not? Theire clean
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 5, 2016 5:47:07 GMT
Yeah, I'm not clicking on those links. Why not? Theire clean Well I saw dragonball fanon wiki on the links and nearly threw up. Plus my phone already has enough issues with malware and viruses. Have a nice day and I mean it, have a nice day...
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Dec 5, 2016 5:54:31 GMT
Well I saw dragonball fanon wiki on the links and nearly threw up.Plus my phone already has enough issues with malware and viruses. Have a nice day and I mean it, have a nice day... You mean because the amount of SSJ7's there?
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 5, 2016 6:01:25 GMT
Well I saw dragonball fanon wiki on the links and nearly threw up.Plus my phone already has enough issues with malware and viruses. Have a nice day and I mean it, have a nice day... You mean because the amount of SSJ7's there? I've clicked a link or two, I saw at one point his "princess pan" which was just videl's head with the long ponytails photoshopped onto kid chi chi's body with the bikini armor.... Yeah saw a lot of "oh look at my og he/she is a SS5+! e_e Plus the bad fanfiction...
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Post by Azoth on Dec 5, 2016 11:55:04 GMT
DB Fanon Wiki is pretty much awful as a whole. Awful pictures, awful articles (saw one where their character's article had pictures of Chaiotzu as their character), some awful concepts, and generally just terrible.
Anyway, I really don't see Gohan as the type who would hook up with a woman for the sole purpose of manufacturing children to fight androids. He'd likely wait until the world was safe before even attempting to date.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 5, 2016 14:58:34 GMT
You mean because the amount of SSJ7's there? I've clicked a link or two, I saw at one point his "princess pan" which was just videl's head with the long ponytails photoshopped onto kid chi chi's body with the bikini armor.... That's actually Pan's head onto Kid Chi-Chi
You think that's bad? DBM's U16 Pan and U18 Pan doesn't really differ
And i agreed with Chaos, FGohan-chan is a Tenshinhan copycat, he would rather fight alone than mate with a woman
I think you're talking about Queen Videl, which is and of Z Videl (not after 10 years) who was given hell by Mystic Gohan who order her to grew her hair
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 1:07:30 GMT
BartekHow are you today my friend! I just wanted to say that according to the rules, we're not allowed to talk about rape and/or molestation. We can talk about making love though!
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 6, 2016 1:59:55 GMT
about rape and/or molestation. Conqueror Geng also this right here is another reason why I didn't click those links.
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Post by Azoth on Dec 6, 2016 2:01:40 GMT
All right, my point was twofold:
1. Making children for the sole purpose of fighting, while practical, is morally reprehensible. You're essentially making people to be used solely as weapons. What happens when your ultimate weapon succeeds, and all they know is how to fight?
2. It takes ~18 years to make a human capable of fighting well, even if you trained them from birth. Without the Hypersonic Lion Tamer, that's ~4 years of hiding with an irrational child (after this, they should have learned enough to STFU when needed), 15-18 years worth of food resources, and above all, time. The androids could find you at any point during those years and end both you and your offspring. With the HTC, that's time you're spending in a blank white room with resources that may or may not go bad before your time is up, with no other human interaction than you (and possibly any mother or sibling(s) that come in with you). You could very well end up with a psychopath worse than the androids.
I'm saying Gohan would rather deal with the androids on his own as a matter of practicality. I'm pretty sure the only reason he trained Trunks is because Trunks is also half-saiyan, and would really be the only other person on the planet who could possibly stand up to the androids. Tenshinhan simply prefers solitude.
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 6, 2016 2:12:56 GMT
I've clicked a link or two, I saw at one point his "princess pan" which was just videl's head with the long ponytails photoshopped onto kid chi chi's body with the bikini armor.... You think that's bad? DBM's U16 Pan and U18 Pan doesn't really differ Except DBM U16 and U18 Pans are likable and are great characters. Back on topic: Azoth Well said, my issue is F Gohan seemed smart but still pulled a Goku and died for it when it would've been better to have continued training Trunks and find ways of surpassing their limits.
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Post by Azoth on Dec 6, 2016 2:24:55 GMT
Back on topic: Azoth Well said, my issue is F Gohan seemed smart but still pulled a Goku and died for it when it would've been better to have continued training Trunks and find ways of surpassing their limits. F. Gohan's training seemed to be patchwork at best, as he did have Piccolo's training and mentally sparred with Krillin on the way to Namek, but he lacked the three years training for the androids F Trunks got them. As such, Goku wasn't around to guide him, and he may not have known there was anything past SSJ. He might have hit on the idea to stay SSJ all the time to master the form at some point, but he isn't the fighting savant Goku is. That said, I agree. Trunks might have been able to go SSJ without Gohan dying, and the two of them, once trained up, would stand a solid chance against the androids.
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Post by Son Pan on Dec 6, 2016 3:15:36 GMT
The three extra years of intense training I think helped the Z-fighters more than they realized. The manga events of History of Trunks are way bleaker than the movie. Trunks went SS without Gohan dying, but he is not that strong. Gohan spars with SS Trunks in his base form and keep up with him easily. The kicker is during the final confrontation instead of grand battle like the movie gave us where Gohan actually had a chance we learn from 17 that he never ever used even half of his power to fight Gohan before then kills him instantly using his full power.
Without those 3 years of intense training Gohan would be much weaker then he was when he trained with Piccolo and his father in canon. With the loss of mentors he was deprived of strong sparring partner to help him push beyond his limits. He trained to surpass his limits the sad truth is on his own he couldn't reach the levels he did in the main timeline, especially since he fought an enemy that didn't give off ki, so it made it a guessing game for him on how much his improvements were paying off. He seemed fairly surprised when 17 revealed he never used half his power against him.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 6, 2016 19:14:05 GMT
You think that's bad? DBM's U16 Pan and U18 Pan doesn't really differ Except DBM U16 and U18 Pans are likable and are great characters. Yeah, they are indeed "likable" when people were celebrating that Pan U16 died and wanted Pan U18 to be killed too Oh sorry about that, i will edit it soon -_- but Trunkie WAS a SSJ BEFORE Gohan was killed in the manga, him being a SSJ AFTER Gohan died in the anime was most likely done for drama www.kanzenshuu.com/episode/filler-plothole/You mean worse than DB Wiki?! Wow never knew that Ontopic Since FGohan was bassicly FLapis's prison b*** i suggest he should train Trunks and let Lapis and Lazuli reduce the human popurality into 0 (in short - FGohan died becuase of his own stupidy)
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