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Post by Eldagusto on Dec 27, 2016 6:32:18 GMT
So Vegeta went from Weaker then Android 18 to way stronger then Imperfect Cell by training in the Timechamber.
While Pickles trained for 3 years, benefiting from having Goku to train with he went from Weaker then Frieza to stronger then Android 20. Since Pickles can heal quicker then Saiyans, and since he fused with Kami and didn't have time to develop and learn his new powers, shouldn't his time in the Time Chamber been way more effective then it was? I'm thinking he has considerable reason to have the greatest boost of all of them, he should have had the most to learn since he had so much more potential to master.
I think it was downplayed because he wasn't a Saiyan. When the Cell Juniors were fighting them Pickles actually seemed to be doing better then Vegeta and Trunks arguably, but no one mentioned it...
Also did Pickles only go into the time chamber for one day? Vegeta was the only one to go in for two days. I think it would have been cool if Tien and Pickles spent a day in there together, they have much to learn from Each other. And if Gohan went in another day, his body would have developed more, but yeah I know Goku didn't want to steal even more of his childhood. If Gohan spent a day training with Pickles he could have learned probably some more esoteric ki powers.
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Post by Xeno Black on Dec 27, 2016 6:48:09 GMT
Great points you have made EldagustoPiccolo going from second from Frieza's level to being able to effortlessly defeat Dr. Gero (implied to be stronger than 2nd form Frieza) in three years is pretty impressive. Despite being weaker than Android 17 initially, him merging with Kami made him stronger than 17 IMO, which is a HUGE jump in strength. Then after training in the HBTC for one day, he is presumably stronger than Semi-Perfect Cell and even manages to overpower a few Cell Jr's in the anime. Not bad... Now while Piccolo's progress could have been downplayed since he wasn't saiyan is possible, but he has definitely improved the most out of the non-saiyan warriors. How many non-saiyan z-fighters can say they were stronger than the two main villains (Frieza and Cell) at different points in time? Answer: none. Now if Piccolo did train in the HBTC for the second day and even fused with Lord Slug / King Piccolo too, his power would skyrocket way past the level of Perfect Cell in a heartbeat. While it is sad that this never happen, but Piccolo is still impressive even without this.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 27, 2016 7:12:40 GMT
OK i buy, who the hfil is Pickles?
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Post by Xeno Black on Dec 27, 2016 7:22:03 GMT
OK i buy, who the hfil is Pickles? It is Piccolo.... [btw no offense on the description on the pic since I couldn't find a decent version with no words lol]
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Post by Bartek on Dec 27, 2016 7:27:30 GMT
OK i buy, who the hfil is Pickles? It is Piccolo.... [btw no offense on the description on the pic since I couldn't find a decent version with no words lol] 1.The fudge, that's the insult to the great Piccolo ouji 2.Also "Pickles" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Big Green", i'm gonna call him...........................worm like Broli
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Post by Xeno Black on Dec 27, 2016 7:31:52 GMT
It is Piccolo.... [btw no offense on the description on the pic since I couldn't find a decent version with no words lol] 1.The fudge, that's the insult to the great Piccolo ouji 2.Also "Pickles" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Big Green", i'm gonna call him...........................worm like Broli Nice video choice mate. Only Chichi can make both Goku and Piccolo sweat bullets just from her presence alone lol.
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Post by Bartek on Dec 27, 2016 7:47:29 GMT
1.The fudge, that's the insult to the great Piccolo ouji 2.Also "Pickles" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Big Green", i'm gonna call him...........................worm like Broli Nice video choice mate. Only Chichi can make both Goku and Piccolo sweat bullets just from her presence alone lol. It was filler, and just like filler it doesn't make sense (since Goku knew how to drive) Ontopic Well Piccolo jr IS Toriyama's fav character, but i doubt he would make him that strong #20 was stated to kill the Z warriors and Gohan and beaten Trunkie in the beta version but was changed to the brats becuase he was "an old geezer", also i think #20 is = 4th form Freeza, maybe even NEAR his 100% form)
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Post by Eldagusto on Dec 27, 2016 7:51:02 GMT
Nice video choice mate. Only Chichi can make both Goku and Piccolo sweat bullets just from her presence alone lol. It was filler, and just like filler it doesn't make sense (since Goku knew how to drive) Ontopic Well Piccolo jr IS Toriyama's fav character, but i doubt he would make him that strong Really? He seems to push Pickles to the side way to often! But he is my fave.
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Post by Azoth on Dec 27, 2016 22:49:35 GMT
I'd say it's because Piccolo is near his max without another fusion.
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Post by Eldagusto on Dec 27, 2016 23:39:57 GMT
But he just fused, it seems he should have had a lot of potential to master. I mean he mastered a hella lot of potential with just a Nail fusion! After given 4 years of that he exponentially increased! But I see what you are saying.
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Post by The Masterman on Dec 27, 2016 23:54:34 GMT
I'd say it's because Piccolo is near his max without another fusion. I agree I always thought he was either at or near his limit unless he pulled a Ghast and started merging with other Namekians.
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Post by Eldagusto on Dec 28, 2016 0:32:27 GMT
Then I am pondering if Pickles' time in the Time Chamber was less getting stronger, but more mastering his new speed and strength.
They weren't terribly clear but the implication was Pickles only spent one day in the time chamber, and that is backed by him going into the time chamber for a second time to retrieve Goten and Trunk without being afraid of not being able to escape.
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Post by Son Pan on Jan 4, 2017 5:39:09 GMT
I think Piccolo did get a massive power boost, but the problem was it just wasn't enough to overpower Cell it doesn't appear as if he really got stronger. There is no solid evidence for this it possible Piccolo surpassed Semi-Perfect Cell after his year of training. He did do well against Cell Juniors as well.
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