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Post by SSJ4 GOD Multi on Feb 17, 2017 1:18:27 GMT
This question is considering Broly as a character in a whole. He was heavily wasted imo. He had a form titled "legendary super saiyan", his attire was badass, his apperance was cool. But do you consider Broly a good character or could have been a good character?
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Feb 17, 2017 1:43:55 GMT
This question is considering Broly as a character in a whole. He was heavily wasted imo. He had a form titled "legendary super saiyan", his attire was badass, his apperance was cool. But do you consider Broly a good character or could have been a good character? I think TFS summed this up pretty well. He's badass but his Backstory sucks (unless explanation is associating stabbing with Kakarot's crying). His power is Maximum insane... but it's nothing than just a brute who can just punch really hard. Salagir's minicomic about the Villain's evil deeds also explained it. His character was minimum and nothing more of a docile Saiyan who gets triggered from just seeing Goku. Blood thirsty warriors, we had them in the better form of Vegeta and Nappa. As for his Transformation... seriously, adding the word Legendary Super Saiyan doesn't make him all that better. Otherwise every is the Legendary Super Saiyan (in canon I mean) Broly could've been better. What we have now is just barely passable (imo) but anything else from the 8th movie is just a sad attempt to reclaim his hyped status he possibly once had. |
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Post by Son Pan on Feb 17, 2017 4:45:03 GMT
He is not a good character, but with more work he could have been a good one. A mad Super Saiyan who kills everyone and everything around him against his will could have been a good character. All the hype surrounding him is what kills him. Legendary Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan were the same thing. Trying to play the legend straight ended up killing any personality Broly could have and made him be really strong and nearly invincible, which left him with nothing else. It's better having him be mad and really strong, but leave the legend out of it so there is room for his character and doesn't immediately declare the other Super Saiyans as fake.
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Post by Ashanark on Feb 17, 2017 5:01:29 GMT
Don't like him.
Back in 1999 I'd seen clips of Broly on the internet, but Funimation hadn't dubbed the film yet so I had no idea what he was. I guessed from his clothes he was the Super Saiyan who'd lived 1,000 years ago and the Z-Fighters had somehow gone back in time. On the whole that might've been a bit better. I despise the concept of a "legendary Super Saiyan" because Super Saiyan is already legendary--rare enough that Goku was the first one to become in a thousand years. Saying that there's an even more legendary legendary Super Saiyan is silly.
There is potential in the idea of a PTSD-suffering Saiyan, but Broly is a complete waste of the concept. He was made Goku's rival simply because Goku is the main character. He's stronger than the heroes, but so was literally every other villain. There's no complexity to his character. There's no flavor to his personality. Even Nappa, Raditz, Zarbon, and Cui have more personality than him. His hatred of Kakarot is meaningless because he wants to kill everything anyway. Broly should be memorable because of who he is, not what he is, just like how Frieza is most well-loved for his regal nature, Imperfect Cell is known for his cunning, and Buu for his creepy craziness.
In my opinion, Broly would've been more interesting if he was any of these options:
-- He was a regular Super Saiyan who just happened to be strong because he'd trained so much
-- He wanted to kill Vegeta instead of Goku, and Goku has to put himself in harm's way to protect a person who doesn't really deserve it that much
-- Paragus was actually the one in control, and Broly was his attack dog
-- He was the previous Super Saiyan from 1,000 years ago and Goku fought him. How would their personalities compare? Would the previous Super Saiyan be good in heart like Goku, or evil?
-- He was powerful but he suffers from PTSD; the way to stop the threat he poses is not by killing him, but by healing him; calming him down like the Hulk and helping him overcome his issues. DBZ is all about giving people second chances, after all.
-- He didn't actually like transforming because he knew he went crazy from it.
The best aspect of Broly is his design. He undoubtedly looks cool and menacing. But is he very interesting or well-executed? Not really.
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Post by Symbiotic on Feb 17, 2017 7:07:39 GMT
He's good at what he's supposed to be: The original concept of a Super Saiyan, a killing machine. Trying to take his character out of that doesn't work well due to what a basic Saiyan he is. Raditz and Nappa have more personality than he does, especially since how he acts when transformed is precisely how he was shown in flashbacks before Paragus put the crown on him. You can't pin all the blame on the Legendary transformation when they show in the movie that he was a cackling destroyer normally.
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Post by Xeno Black on Feb 21, 2017 1:30:49 GMT
Personally I like Broly since his history is quite messed up compared to most (his king ordered him to die, was stabbed in the abdomen, nearly died as his homeworld exploded, wandered from planet to planet as he fell deeper into psychosis, was forcibly mentally controlled by his scared father, etc). The only thing that bother's me is his hatred for Goku (crying as a baby shouldn't cause such a mental distress), but I guess his near death experience fucked him up to the point he blamelessly puts Goku to blame. Character-wise he unfortunately does not have much personality, but can you really blame him for what he became? If you were a individual who suffered for most of your life and finally unlocked the legendary powers inside of you, how would you not become a proxy "God of destruction" who craves destruction. And speaking of personality, he did had some in the first movie, but his next two appearances basically made him a mindless monster since his PTSD blinded him with hatred. And speaking of God of destruction: |
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Post by Axalon on Feb 21, 2017 3:09:40 GMT
Is he a good character? No. His motivation is asinine. He probably has one of the absolute worst character motivations I've seen in fiction.
That said, is he COOL? Hell yes. He's basically a USS without any of the drawbacks and more power to boot, and his pure white eyes look awesome. Plus the way he transforms by EXPLODING out of himself into the Legendary form is great, which is why I'm kinda disappointed that his female alternate universe counterpart just grows bigger. That can't be good for the skin. The stretch marks must be something awful.
TFS Vegeta nailed with "He's so COOL...BUT HE'S SO DUMB! THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN IS LITERALLY A GIANT FREAKING BABY."
Then any semblance of character he had was ruined past the first movie, when Trunks literally pissed the awesome away.
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Post by christhesaiyan on Feb 27, 2017 1:37:25 GMT
He's an interesting character. Seeing a different type of Super Saiyan and the extreme impact on his personality is a very cool concept. Wish they hadn't tried to make him (and his clone) a main villain so many times though.
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Post by TheAncientCenturion on Apr 26, 2017 2:36:15 GMT
No.
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Post by Solus on Apr 28, 2017 21:59:19 GMT
And speaking of God of destruction: I like this picture a lot. Although I think Broly should be shown in his LSSJ Form. Would make the perfect God of Destruction. Back to the topic, I think that Broly had a decent character in Movie 8. It is just that any villain from DBZ has the same feats. All of them just want to rule/destroy/avenge things. There is no-one with a real motive except for Zamasu. It wouldn't be fitting for a DBZ villain to have a logical reason for doing what he does. Imagine, Broly actually trying to make the Universe a better place by not randomly destroying galaxies but eradicating evil instead. There would be no reason for him to fight the Z-Fighters ... |
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Post by R I P I R I U S on May 1, 2017 11:57:43 GMT
And speaking of God of destruction: I like this picture a lot. Although I think Broly should be shown in his LSSJ Form. Would make the perfect God of Destruction.
Back to the topic, I think that Broly had a decent character in Movie 8. It is just that any villain from DBZ has the same feats. All of them just want to rule/destroy/avenge things. There is no-one with a real motive except for Zamasu. It wouldn't be fitting for a DBZ villain to have a logical reason for doing what he does. Imagine, Broly actually trying to make the Universe a better place by not randomly destroying galaxies but eradicating evil instead. There would be no reason for him to fight the Z-Fighters ... Well, it could have been interesting that his harsh methods of destroying evil didn't go well with the Z fighters who would otherwise give 2nd chances. So like Broly and Z fighters would just be fighting to make their point instead of killing. |
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Post by Solus on May 1, 2017 13:04:15 GMT
Back to the topic, I think that Broly had a decent character in Movie 8. It is just that any villain from DBZ has the same feats. All of them just want to rule/destroy/avenge things. There is no-one with a real motive except for Zamasu. It wouldn't be fitting for a DBZ villain to have a logical reason for doing what he does. Imagine, Broly actually trying to make the Universe a better place by not randomly destroying galaxies but eradicating evil instead. There would be no reason for him to fight the Z-Fighters ... Well, it could have been interesting that his harsh methods of destroying evil didn't go well with the Z fighters who would otherwise give 2nd chances. So like Broly and Z fighters would just be fighting to make their point instead of killing. Yes, that would be cool. But it wouldn't Dragonball-like. That was the whole point I made. Such things are done in mangas with good stories such as Naruto and One Piece. But not in Dragonball. |
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