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Post by christhesaiyan on Apr 8, 2017 13:00:39 GMT
I don't know if he will or not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 16:24:59 GMT
When SSJBlue was first introduced, I was thinking they would have a SSJ2 and SSJ3Blue eventually or those forms with different colors. If SSJB was a "SSJ with the power of SSJGod" then a "SSJ2 with the power of SSJGod" should be possible unless the strain was too much. I would think a SSJ2Blue would still be less strenuous than a SSJB with Kaioken x10 and good for a last ditch effort. They never brought it up so I guess it's not possible.
I'm not sure what kind of new form they could have. Maybe a type of ascended, full-power SSJGod or something similar to Ultimate Gohan where it looks like their base but with very minor changes. If they do get a new form, I think it will finally push them beyond Beerus or at least on his level. Right now Goku's rivals for the tournament are the Pride Troopers who are training to become Gods of Destruction so they're probably the strongest participants out of all the other universes. The power of the Gods of Destruction might be the limit of God ki that a mortal could ascend to. I don't think all the Gods of Destruction are the same strength but maybe they're all in the same relative tier so if Beerus was a 10 and Whis was a 15 the rest of the Gods of Destruction could range between 8-12 or something. A few form would have to be something Goku achieved before the tournament since there are only 40 hours and he's spending most of it gathering the participants. That could explain why he was spamming Kaioken during the preliminary round because it's no longer be his triumph card and he's saving something better for the real tournament.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Apr 8, 2017 16:41:25 GMT
No idea, but I hope not. All transformations sorta feel useless in DB-super now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 1:05:06 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised one fucking bit if he does. That said I reckon it's too early to introduce a legit new form for Goku and at best we will get him properly harmonising SSJblue with KKx69, which will obviously be the bridge for his eventual new form later on in the series.
I'd laugh if it ends up being like Mystic Gohan and he is just uber in his base form, with any transformations he chooses to use is done so purely for intimidation reasons. Or it's somethin even lamer like he gets a third eye. Wait no! His tail comes back and the eye is on the end of it....
edit: I can good English
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Post by Azoth on Apr 9, 2017 1:16:17 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised one fucking bit if he does. That said I reckon it's too early to introduce a legit new form for Goku and at best we will get him properly harmonising SSJblue with KKx69, which will obviously be the bridge for his eventual new form later on in the series. I'd laugh if it ends up being like Mystic Gohan and he is just uber in his base form, with any transformations he chooses to use is done so purely for intimidation reasons. Or it's somethin even lamer like he gets a third eye. Wait no! His tail comes back and the eye is on the end of it.... edit: I can good English His tail comes back in the middle of the tournament, he loses his shit and becomes a Blue Great Ape (somebody hit him with Blutz waves or w/e). Gohan slaps some sense back into him, he gets control again, and we get SSJ4B Goku.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 1:30:48 GMT
Instead of blutz waves it is triggered from Krillin doin his super duper x11 solfla which reflects off a pantsed Roshi's bare behind, multiplying the blutziness of said waves to at least 42, he becomes a blue arsed ape and Gohan in all his wisdom does the only thing that can be done, he flies into blue arsed ape Goku's ears and due to the power of logic, fuses with his brain coz it's really big nao. This heightened level of intelligence and self awareness coalesces into the SSJ2.5 purple, coz purple is awesome. He one shots Zeno and becomes the new God in da h00d. He also makes Vados his personal sex slave, Princess Leia style. BAM!
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Post by Xeno Black on Apr 9, 2017 5:09:48 GMT
Super Saiyan White is incoming.... or 20x SSJ Blue Kaioken. XD
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Post by The Masterman on Apr 9, 2017 5:45:15 GMT
Man I hope not.
I hope they don't keep adding new Super Saiyan God forms unless given to new Saiyans from other universes.
And please no SS4.
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Post by christhesaiyan on Apr 9, 2017 21:28:46 GMT
Man I hope not. I hope they don't keep adding new Super Saiyan God forms unless given to new Saiyans from other universes. And please no SS4. SSJ4 is likely never going to appear in DBS. It's nothing in terms of power compared to the new forms being used. Personally I don't mind if they introduce a new form, as long as they explain how it was acquired clearly and reasonably. I was decently satisfied with the Kaioken Blue form for example because it made sense. Goku knew how to use the Kaioken and took advantage of the SSJB form's ki control to meld the two forms together. As for the likelihood, I think it's not too hard to imagine him transforming. Kaioken has a history of tremendously helping Goku to powerscale over time, and his body is likely adjusting to God ki levels higher the SSJB thanks to the Kaioken. Combine that with his training with such a new and impressive power and he shouldn't have that much trouble unlocking a new transformation.
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Post by R I P I R I U S on Apr 10, 2017 15:58:58 GMT
Ah, the new transformation is likely to be SSB 2. Since we already got a SSB (God form + SSJ) Then as the old SS1 form was straining and SS2 being the stable form, we could get the SS 2 version for Blue transformation. Meaning that this one is stable (with the properties of normal/stable God form and the best of Super Saiyan transformation)
EDIT: Or simply get an Ultimate Gohan form? Since the GoDs don't seem to have a tranformation (yet) I would assume that they just go with a simple form. Or back to a permanent GOD form
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Post by Namikaze on Apr 10, 2017 19:49:01 GMT
Maybe. The red aura & smile would mean nothing if it was just Blue with Kaioken X20 or something lol.
Personally I think it may be a perfected God form.
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Post by Andres on Apr 10, 2017 21:33:11 GMT
Maybe. The red aura & smile would mean nothing if it was just Blue with Kaioken X20 or something lol.
Personally I think it may be a perfected God form. I was thinking the same thing. Beerus (and other gods of destruction) don't need transformation to access their godly power.
I'm thinking he (or Vegeta, for that matter) will truly understand how god ki truly works and unlock it, finally reaching a level which rivals (yet not surpasses) Beerus'. He'll become a God of Destruction in his own right, but without the title that goes with it.
Didn't Whis talk about this very same thing with the Oracle Fish?
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Post by VoidSlayer on Apr 11, 2017 0:26:09 GMT
Personally, i really hope not!
What i'd like to see if it's possible is SSBlue combined with how SS2 was originally designed when Gohan ascended during the fight with cell- Like the ultimate version of Super Saiyan with the power of Gods....Not simply a new form, if that makes sense
Personally im tipping Vegeta is the one who does get some form of new powerup with the way they're teasing how important the birth of Bulla was to him combined with how he still doesn't know that the whole universe is in peril.
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Post by broly on Apr 15, 2017 0:00:29 GMT
Ah, the new transformation is likely to be SSB 2. Since we already got a SSB (God form + SSJ) Then as the old SS1 form was straining and SS2 being the stable form, we could get the SS 2 version for Blue transformation. Meaning that this one is stable (with the properties of normal/stable God form and the best of Super Saiyan transformation) EDIT: Or simply get an Ultimate Gohan form? Since the GoDs don't seem to have a tranformation (yet) I would assume that they just go with a simple form. Or back to a permanent GOD form I don't think there'll be an ssjb2 tbh... The strain of ssj forms rise as the level increases, plus there's the ambiguous interview with Toriyama where he said that Goku would be focusing more on his ssj form than ssj2 and 3
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Post by R I P I R I U S on Apr 15, 2017 14:49:28 GMT
Ah, the new transformation is likely to be SSB 2. Since we already got a SSB (God form + SSJ) Then as the old SS1 form was straining and SS2 being the stable form, we could get the SS 2 version for Blue transformation. Meaning that this one is stable (with the properties of normal/stable God form and the best of Super Saiyan transformation) EDIT: Or simply get an Ultimate Gohan form? Since the GoDs don't seem to have a tranformation (yet) I would assume that they just go with a simple form. Or back to a permanent GOD form I don't think there'll be an ssjb2 tbh... The strain of ssj forms rise as the level increases, plus there's the ambiguous interview with Toriyama where he said that Goku would be focusing more on his ssj form than ssj2 and So this would be like a full powered SSJ or they might throw in the Base God form like the manga, you never know.
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Post by VoidSlayer on Apr 16, 2017 0:14:51 GMT
Does the strain really rise as the levels increase though? Aside from SS3 i've never seen a situation where a Saiyan was too drained to maintain SS1 or SS2.
I'd like to see a way for them to incorporate the original God form into it somehow, but for the upcoming tournament it'd be too powerful.
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Post by christhesaiyan on Apr 16, 2017 21:42:04 GMT
Does the strain really rise as the levels increase though? Aside from SS3 i've never seen a situation where a Saiyan was too drained to maintain SS1 or SS2. I'd like to see a way for them to incorporate the original God form into it somehow, but for the upcoming tournament it'd be too powerful. That's correct, the strain doesn't increase with each level. In fact SSJ3 is the only case where there's any significant strain, although mixing the forms with Kaioken does strain the body as well. I doubt DBS will do something as dumb as a SSB2, that's way too unoriginal and the writers know it. From the hints that have been dropped it seems that Goku's new form will be a God-perfected form as others have suggested.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 21:50:07 GMT
I'd want a new form because I would hate the last transformation from Toriyama to be a recolored SSJ1. I wouldn't mind if they fully mastered God ki and could use it all in base (which is what I assumed was going to happen after BoG but then they went and introduced SSJB!) so that it would be a like a God ki version of Ultimate Gohan. They could still transform if they want but it wouldn't raise their power or anything.
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Post by Axalon on Apr 16, 2017 22:22:19 GMT
I'd like to see SSB2, Electric Boogaloo (oh c'mon, it even has SPARKS!) at the very least. I'm honestly a bit surprised they haven't tried using the other forms and augmented them with god ki yet, given how lazy SSB was in the first place. Seems to me that SSB2 would grant far better yields and much more stability than a risky Kaioken multiplier that becomes super taxing on the body and risks ki onset disorder.
Really though if I had the choice I'd prefer not to see another Saiyan transformation ever. Give me Gohan fully mastering his potential and going even...further...beyond, or Piccolo coming up with some amazing new technique or something any day instead of the Saiyan powerup show.
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Post by R I P I R I U S on Apr 28, 2017 5:57:34 GMT
I'd like to see SSB2, Electric Boogaloo (oh c'mon, it even has SPARKS!) at the very least. I'm honestly a bit surprised they haven't tried using the other forms and augmented them with god ki yet, given how lazy SSB was in the first place. Seems to me that SSB2 would grant far better yields and much more stability than a risky Kaioken multiplier that becomes super taxing on the body and risks ki onset disorder. Really though if I had the choice I'd prefer not to see another Saiyan transformation ever. Give me Gohan fully mastering his potential and going even...further...beyond, or Piccolo coming up with some amazing new technique or something any day instead of the Saiyan powerup show. But is seems like Goku is spamming that SSB+ Kaioken form a lot implying he has perfected that technique which was unstable during is battle against Hit. So maybe this would mean he was practicing to increasing his strain on the body just so he could go SSB2? That would make a lot of sense on why use Kaioken instead of using level 2 transformation on God Ki. It was that he couldn't do it due to enormous stress and the lack of complete control over God Ki. The manga did show Vegeta gaining better control on the God Form.
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