Did Toriyama forget tails or not?
May 12, 2017 16:41:42 GMT
Post by Kirasha on May 12, 2017 16:41:42 GMT
Since being told to take this to the forums, I figured this would be a good spot to hold this discussion.
To take from my last post about it on the forums, no, I do not believe that Toriyama forgot tails, but rather, wrote them away once they stopped being convenient, or in Goku's case, because he hated tails and found them to be an annoyance. We could assume that the reason as to why Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta wore their tails like belts, would be because that would be easier to draw, though I will fully admit that this is speculation.
As for proof however that Toriyama did not forget tails, well Daizenshuu 4 is a great contribution to this, first of all there is the concept sketch of SSJ3 Goku:
In the most right image we can see that SSJ3 Goku was originally going to have his tail, this is a clear indication that Toriyama did not forget tails, and even considered bringing them back for the SSJ3 form. Something GT later ended up using for their SSJ4 form.
Then there is the implication from that same Daizenshuu that Goten and Trunks were purposely designed to not have tails:
Translation of Daizenshuu 4
Now, last but not least, in one of the many interviews that Toriyama has had, he revealed that it was true that he hated drawing tails and was actively seeking ways to remove them:
Interview with Toriyama
I personally believe that this is sufficient proof that Toriyama did not forget about tails, but rather had them removed purposely whenever he had the chance, heck, even Gohan's first tail removal supports this, only growing back during the fight with Vegeta (no doubt for convenience sake, as well as the second tail regrowth was purely an anime filler thing).
In any case, this is my thoughts on whether or not Toriyama forgot tails, in which I say..he did not. What are your thoughts?
To take from my last post about it on the forums, no, I do not believe that Toriyama forgot tails, but rather, wrote them away once they stopped being convenient, or in Goku's case, because he hated tails and found them to be an annoyance. We could assume that the reason as to why Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta wore their tails like belts, would be because that would be easier to draw, though I will fully admit that this is speculation.
As for proof however that Toriyama did not forget tails, well Daizenshuu 4 is a great contribution to this, first of all there is the concept sketch of SSJ3 Goku:
In the most right image we can see that SSJ3 Goku was originally going to have his tail, this is a clear indication that Toriyama did not forget tails, and even considered bringing them back for the SSJ3 form. Something GT later ended up using for their SSJ4 form.
Then there is the implication from that same Daizenshuu that Goten and Trunks were purposely designed to not have tails:
Translation of Daizenshuu 4
The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.
Now, last but not least, in one of the many interviews that Toriyama has had, he revealed that it was true that he hated drawing tails and was actively seeking ways to remove them:
Interview with Toriyama
Is it true that Goku’s tail was a nuisance?!
It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs)
It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs)
I personally believe that this is sufficient proof that Toriyama did not forget about tails, but rather had them removed purposely whenever he had the chance, heck, even Gohan's first tail removal supports this, only growing back during the fight with Vegeta (no doubt for convenience sake, as well as the second tail regrowth was purely an anime filler thing).
In any case, this is my thoughts on whether or not Toriyama forgot tails, in which I say..he did not. What are your thoughts?
