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Post by SSJ4 GOD Multi on Aug 8, 2017 21:11:39 GMT
Pretty much how strong does the three fusions make a person? The fusions are the fusion dance, potara fusion and namekian fusion. Like for example: if saiyan saga yamcha fuses with Tien how strong would Tiencha be? Or if namek saga Goku fused with namek saga Vegeta using Potara how strong would Vegito be?
We know the potara fusion is the better fusion between fusion dance and itself while namekian fusion is pretty the same as potara but slightly different. But do you just add their power level during that period of time or estimate how strong they were and compare it to other characters that were around that tier?
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Post by Son Pan on Aug 8, 2017 21:59:55 GMT
There probably isn't a real answer. If we try to calculate it then we're just going back to trying to figure out power levels, which is already a headache in itself. It just seems to be a massive boost that multiplies the original power level somehow.
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Post by Jason9000 on Aug 9, 2017 3:07:18 GMT
Pretty much how strong does the three fusions make a person? The fusions are the fusion dance, potara fusion and namekian fusion. Like for example: if saiyan saga yamcha fuses with Tien how strong would Tiencha be? Or if namek saga Goku fused with namek saga Vegeta using Potara how strong would Vegito be? We know the potara fusion is the better fusion between fusion dance and itself while namekian fusion is pretty the same as potara but slightly different. But do you just add their power level during that period of time or estimate how strong they were and compare it to other characters that were around that tier? I think fusion just makes the resulting character as strong as the plot demands. Goten and Trunks were weaker than Piccolo individually, even after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Yet when they become Gotenks they are able to go Super Saiyan 3 and be equal to Super Buu. In the Namek Arc Piccolo fused with Nail and went from maybe first form Frieza to above second form Frieza. Then with the Androids he went from unable to touch Android 17 at all to his equal after fusing with Kami. I'm sure if Tien and Yamcha fused they'd be able to beat Nappa, but unable to beat Vegeta cause all that build up of Goku training on King Kai's planet would go to waste and God forbid someone besides Goku beat the main villain. Vegito during the Namek saga could beat Frieza without turning Super Saiyan or would be unable to depending on what AT wanted. As cool as fusion is, it's just a vague method that will never be properly defined that just makes someone stronger in a short amount of time.
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Post by Ashanark on Aug 9, 2017 14:16:22 GMT
Complete headcanon: For Saiyans, the base of the fusee is stronger than the current max of its parts. Base Gotenks would wreck SS Goten and Trunks effortlessly; base Vegito would wreck SS3 Goku effortlessly. If the base alone is a tier above its components' best, fusions can take on massively higher-level opponents. In my absolutely-no-hard-evidence-to-back-this-up estimation, a U13 Nappitz would be decisively better than Goku at every level.
For Namekian fusion, all I can say is "a lot stronger." If the universe has any sense of justice, Piccolo + Piccolo + Gast should be no less SS2 Vegito-tier.
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Post by VoidSlayer on Nov 4, 2017 8:36:59 GMT
After the big 'potara vs fusion dance' discussion plus other such discussions on how powerful different fusies are, and after exhaustive analysis on how the new fusion characters compare to the big baddie they are currently facing i have come to the following mathematical conclusion-
Shitloads.
Ok so maybe not so mathematical, but really it's gotta be some absurdly high multiplication of base power, which then makes the higher forms and transformations almost Godly in comparison (With apologies to Zamasu, we know how he feels when mortals pretend to be Gods)
Look no further then Vegito and Gogeta. Goku as an SS3 couldn't defeat Majin Buu, or Janemba when he became some sort of Arch-Devil (At least, thats how it looked to me) yet in his fused form as a SS he didn't just become equal, he CREAMED them. Absolutely dominated them in every possible way. And thats when in fused form he was 2 transformations 'weaker' than he was pre-fusion. And thats not even including the wacky new powers they both got.
So to conclude- I'd shay that fusion multiplies the new characters base form strength to an unspecified huge degree, which then allows their transformation to further multiply that huge new strength into previously unknown realms of strength/power.
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Post by FunnyEvil on Nov 4, 2017 23:46:01 GMT
Very.
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