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Post by dbmaccount on Oct 13, 2021 1:38:56 GMT
XII knows how to seal powerful beings, like the Old Supreme Kai.
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Post by drewsaga on Oct 13, 2021 18:41:31 GMT
XII knows how to seal powerful beings, like the Old Supreme Kai. But Zen Buu is no Old Kai. He also is vastly more powerful both in power and magic than his other forms like Fat Buu, Kid Buu and even Super Buu. XXI beating Buu is actually harder to believe than Vegeta beating Cell like he did.
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Post by Super-dee-Duper Veku on Oct 13, 2021 19:21:12 GMT
XII knows how to seal powerful beings, like the Old Supreme Kai. But Zen Buu is no Old Kai. He also is vastly more powerful both in power and magic than his other forms like Fat Buu, Kid Buu and even Super Buu. XXI beating Buu is actually harder to believe than Vegeta beating Cell like he did. Good points, think you and I have talked about this a little bit but still hoping for XXI to have to show some of this “power” of his that Buu commented about earlier on in the apartments. Even if he was the one that sealed Old Kai and was said to be weaker than Buu when the Kai spoke about him in Z. XXIs still had millions of years supposedly to improve or hone whatever his main power is. That being magic or power as well. Buu being so OP magic wise this would be the perfect time to force XXIs hand a bit more if his puppets magic gets countered. Leading to an actual fight hopefully. Or he could still just be sealed away in a page or two. Let’s hope not but hey it’s coming up soon and I’d be shocked if we didn’t see more out of XXI because Buu is just so ridiculous.
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Post by drewsaga on Oct 13, 2021 20:50:47 GMT
But Zen Buu is no Old Kai. He also is vastly more powerful both in power and magic than his other forms like Fat Buu, Kid Buu and even Super Buu. XXI beating Buu is actually harder to believe than Vegeta beating Cell like he did. Good points, think you and I have talked about this a little bit but still hoping for XXI to have to show some of this “power” of his that Buu commented about earlier on in the apartments. Even if he was the one that sealed Old Kai and was said to be weaker than Buu when the Kai spoke about him in Z. XXIs still had millions of years supposedly to improve or hone whatever his main power is. That being magic or power as well. Buu being so OP magic wise this would be the perfect time to force XXIs hand a bit more if his puppets magic gets countered. Leading to an actual fight hopefully. Or he could still just be sealed away in a page or two. Let’s hope not but hey it’s coming up soon and I’d be shocked if we didn’t see more out of XXI because Buu is just so ridiculous. I am concerned that Salagir will keep doubling down on characters "saving their secrets for later" like when Vegeta decided not to show his newfound power against Cell even though Cell is (or should be) quite a scary opponent for someone like Vegeta. Funny enough maybe XXI trying to hold back and Zen Buu playing around might get us a real fight instead if neither can one-off each other. Problem is, if XXI can't quickly beat Buu then Buu has so many ways of actually beating XXI.
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Post by Super-dee-Duper Veku on Oct 13, 2021 21:11:01 GMT
Good points, think you and I have talked about this a little bit but still hoping for XXI to have to show some of this “power” of his that Buu commented about earlier on in the apartments. Even if he was the one that sealed Old Kai and was said to be weaker than Buu when the Kai spoke about him in Z. XXIs still had millions of years supposedly to improve or hone whatever his main power is. That being magic or power as well. Buu being so OP magic wise this would be the perfect time to force XXIs hand a bit more if his puppets magic gets countered. Leading to an actual fight hopefully. Or he could still just be sealed away in a page or two. Let’s hope not but hey it’s coming up soon and I’d be shocked if we didn’t see more out of XXI because Buu is just so ridiculous. I am concerned that Salagir will keep doubling down on characters "saving their secrets for later" like when Vegeta decided not to show his newfound power against Cell even though Cell is (or should be) quite a scary opponent for someone like Vegeta. Funny enough maybe XXI trying to hold back and Zen Buu playing around might get us a real fight instead if neither can one-off each other. Problem is, if XXI can't quickly beat Buu then Buu has so many ways of actually beating XXI.
Haha that’s pretty much similar to my thoughts and concerns now as well. Would be pretty hilarious that we get a longer more strung out fight between the two for that reason. We have one of them (XXI) trying to stay secretive and mask what he can really do still, so maybe having him just tossing “basic” magic at Buu at first and the other (Zen Buu) playing with him as it’s in his nature and also wanting to figure out what he can really do. That and/or XXI also being the real reason behind why Buu and Supreme Kaio seem to be working together and wanting to figure out what’s up with him. Leading to them both jobbing to each other and stretching the fight out because they both keep refusing to really try. That is until XXI quits messing around. My prediction still is that he’ll be the one to take Zen Buu out so he can’t interfere in whatever next great problem happens for everyone in the tournament. This Buu has been set up to be such a god like character, so a possibly just as old magician with some super duper magic may be the easiest way to kick him aside for now. That being as I said so he’s not around to be an I win/do over button to fix things as soon as he’s bored of them like the Majin rebellion. I’ll say that besides the Cell vs Vegeta fight, this is one of my most anticipated fights in the tournament. Just really wanting to see what XXI can do and if it happens how I think it will. This should take Zen/God Buu down a notch. In a similar fashion to what Gast did to SSJ3 Vegetto (even though I think that was a bit of BS with no explanation).
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Post by Son Pan on Oct 17, 2021 18:02:32 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if XXI lose next round to be honest because his one spell for a quick win fails and he is trying to keep his disguise. The thing about this tournament is even if competitors lose they can still stick around. XXI could be eliminated next round then decide to drop the act reveal his true form and jump start to forcefully take the Dragon Balls. It is only once he stops using the old man’s body that we see him deal with U4 Buu.
I still think there is a good chance we the tournament doesn’t finish at all. At the same time I can also see waiting until the tournament is over for XXI to strike even he loses in the tournament.
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Post by Super-dee-Duper Veku on Oct 17, 2021 19:25:50 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised if XXI lose next round to be honest because his one spell for a quick win fails and he is trying to keep his disguise. The thing about this tournament is even if competitors lose they can still stick around. XXI could be eliminated next round then decide to drop the act reveal his true form and jump start to forcefully take the Dragon Balls. It is only once he stops using the old man’s body that we see him deal with U4 Buu. I still think there is a good chance we the tournament doesn’t finish at all. At the same time I can also see waiting until the tournament is over for XXI to strike even he loses in the tournament. Hmm that’s an interesting point, I know some (myself included) predict that XXI will win in one way or the other. But having him actually lose to Buu instead of this fight finally forcing his hand to see more of what he can do is a possibility I hadn’t really thought about because it’s still so hyped for most of us to see more than a page or two out of him. So him just going back into his apartment afterwords or if the “old man” puppet actually gets destroyed or possibly absorbed by Buu. Could lead to everyone thinking XXIs actually dead/gone when in reality his true form is still in his apartment plotting whatever the hell he has going on. So a major shock to the rest of the cast when his monster looking form pops out later to cause all hell. Or him maybe even magically screwing with Vegetto from behind the scenes and maybe causing his rampage. This leading to everyone thinking that Vegetto just snapped for real finally and them not knowing that XXI is still around and causing issues from the shadows possibly. It’s a little similar to what Babadi did during the majin revolt in a way but different enough because everyone for the most part knew Babadi was responsible for it all from the get go.
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Post by dbmaccount on Oct 21, 2021 2:35:59 GMT
What if XII knows a spell that can undo fusion...?
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