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Post by hector on Jan 6, 2022 11:41:42 GMT
Vote and discuss.
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Post by Super-dee-Duper Veku on Jan 6, 2022 20:04:42 GMT
Straight out of left field and I don’t think this is the case but what if XXI was actually the other being in the apartment answering the questions of who we think is XXI? Like a lackey asking his boss questions on how to win. With XXI just using him as a proxy to fight in the tournament to stay hidden.
Honestly I think what we saw in the tournament is actually XXI who probably was the one to seal the old Kai in DBM but heard this theory the other day so figured I’d throw it out there.
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Post by Skarr on Jan 8, 2022 15:59:19 GMT
I think it was the old universe wheel that said XXI was the one who sealed Old Kai. That could've changed but Old Kai recognizes the name so they're confirmed to have some connection in the comic.
If he was alive before Old Kai was sealed, he would be at least 75 million years and oldest being in the tournament. He has a set of Dragonballs that seem to only grant information so he could be an ancient dragon that predates Porunga. In the U4 novel, Bibidi uses an ancient spell book to help create Buu which could've belonged to XXI. I think that's all we know about him so far.
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Post by Xeno Black on Jan 8, 2022 17:02:37 GMT
I always liked the theory that XXI was the very entity that sealed Old Kai 75 million years ago.   It the perfect way to establish XXI in canon lore while granting the writer freedom to make him as dangerous as they want him to be. The possibilities are endless from being a powerful Makaioshin, ancient android (XXI is roman numeral of "21"), or just being a powerful alien 'shadow' wizard. And with the possibility of having connections to Eternal Dragons, it further brings interest to a character that has largely escaped public dissection for nearly 14 years. I look forward to the day when the special chapter is made about XXI's origins, especially if it proves this theory as being correct. It would be a interesting story to behold, including on the fact there could be a mortal that achieved mystic form who in most universes was responsible for defeating XXI after Old Kai was sealed away. |
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Post by godjacob on Jan 8, 2022 19:09:57 GMT
Technically speaking, the one who sealed the Old Kai in the Sword (In the pre-Super canon anyway) and an original concept created by Salagir can be one in the same given we never did find out in the original manga what it was that did it leaving it a blank slate.
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Post by supergojita3 on Jan 14, 2022 7:47:06 GMT
I go with the guy who sealed old kai, as like skar said. the old wheel had that as the info.
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Post by Xeno Black on Jan 23, 2022 3:15:17 GMT
I think it was the old universe wheel that said XXI was the one who sealed Old Kai. That could've changed but Old Kai recognizes the name so they're confirmed to have some connection in the comic. If he was alive before Old Kai was sealed, he would be at least 75 million years and oldest being in the tournament. He has a set of Dragonballs that seem to only grant information so he could be an ancient dragon that predates Porunga. In the U4 novel, Bibidi uses an ancient spell book to help create Buu which could've belonged to XXI. I think that's all we know about him so far. Thank you Skar for your conversation on the official discord. For our forum members, I shall provide the very wheel you were referring to back in 2010.  |
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Post by Smilingblade3 on Feb 5, 2022 0:43:20 GMT
Could XXI possibly be Majin Ozotto??
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Post by supergojita3 on Feb 5, 2022 2:03:46 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin.
in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger.
the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme.
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Post by hector on Feb 5, 2022 14:05:40 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin. in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger. the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme. Why would that guy marry such an ugly witch? He can do better than that. |
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Post by godjacob on Feb 5, 2022 17:40:59 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin. in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger. the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme. Why would that guy marry such an ugly witch? He can do better than that. Maybe the witch has a great personality? Don't judge. |
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Post by supergojita3 on Feb 5, 2022 21:57:49 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin. in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger. the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme. Why would that guy marry such an ugly witch? He can do better than that. she can transform into puar. xxi has weird tastes. |
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Post by drewsaga on Feb 8, 2022 7:39:59 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin. in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger. the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme. Why would that guy marry such an ugly witch? He can do better than that. I don't know, XXI doesn't exactly look like the stunning image of beauty himself:
I mean, unless your into eldritch horrors, in which case, XXI is your guy.
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Post by NamelessSaiyan on Feb 8, 2022 15:14:37 GMT
I had this idea that Salagir had made 20 universes at first and XXI, being named after the Roman number 21, wanted to erase all of them and create a 21st one where he could reign supreme, free from whatever it is that he doesn't like about U5.
Unfortunately, Salagir said the reason he gave this name to XXI was "stupid", so I'm probably way off the mark!
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Post by godjacob on Feb 8, 2022 18:05:19 GMT
I had this idea that Salagir had made 20 universes at first and XXI, being named after the Roman number 21, wanted to erase all of them and create a 21st one where he could reign supreme, free from whatever it is that he doesn't like about U5. Unfortunately, Salagir said the reason he gave this name to XXI was "stupid", so I'm probably way off the mark! A shame cause that name and reasoning offers a lot. Why does he want to leave his own universe? Did he know of other universes before the Varga arrived to his own with this goal? But nah just go "lol it was a dumb name" and not even try with it. |
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Post by supergojita3 on Feb 8, 2022 21:43:12 GMT
I had this idea that Salagir had made 20 universes at first and XXI, being named after the Roman number 21, wanted to erase all of them and create a 21st one where he could reign supreme, free from whatever it is that he doesn't like about U5. Unfortunately, Salagir said the reason he gave this name to XXI was "stupid", so I'm probably way off the mark! did he ever give the stupid reason? I'd like to know. |
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Post by bublubru on Mar 13, 2022 9:23:43 GMT
Don't know if this helps, but the total number of stars in all 7 dragonballs is 21
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Post by supergojita3 on Mar 13, 2022 10:07:52 GMT
Don't know if this helps, but the total number of stars in all 7 dragonballs is 21 nice. maybe that was the clue sal gave n xxi's name scheming. |
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Post by dbmaccount on Mar 13, 2022 12:16:49 GMT
I'm thinking xxi is the husband of the witch who merged with the kaioshin. in most universes, the witch merged as always, in u5 the witch put the earring on the other ear, so no merger. the plan went off withnout a hitch and xxi reigned supreme. Why would that guy marry such an ugly witch? He can do better than that.
Why would Earth beauty standards apply to demi-immortal aliens?
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