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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 3, 2022 0:31:08 GMT

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Post by hector on Feb 3, 2022 0:31:08 GMT

Universe 7
-How exactly did Gast defeat Androids/Cell/Buu?
-Where did Vegeta go?

Universe 8
-What did Dr Gero do? Did he forget about his plans for world domination just because Goku wasn't there?
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 13
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 17
-How exactly did Cell defeat Bojack and his gang?

Universe 19
-Same questions as in Universe 8.

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 3, 2022 2:00:50 GMT

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Post by NamelessSaiyan on Feb 3, 2022 2:00:50 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 0:31:08 GMT hector said:

Universe 7
-How exactly did Gast defeat Androids/Cell/Buu?
-Where did Vegeta go?

Universe 8
-What did Dr Gero do? Did he forget about his plans for world domination just because Goku wasn't there?
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 13
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 17
-How exactly did Cell defeat Bojack and his gang?

Universe 19
-Same questions as in Universe 8.

U7: By overpowering them. Gast is very powerful and a specialist in magic. Wouldn't be surprised if Gast simply defeated them all.

U8: I think the Androids' directive was "kill Goku". With Goku terminated in Namek by Freeza, they probably never awoke. Also it's likely the Frost Demons simply went to Earth and sold/destroyed it.

U13: I think so. The Z Fighters tried to beat Babidi's group but were owned, because they were too weak.

U17: No idea.

U19: Probably same as U8, though the Heloites have enough firepower to defeat the Androids.

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 3, 2022 13:14:12 GMT

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Post by hector on Feb 3, 2022 13:14:12 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 2:00:50 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

U7: By overpowering them. Gast is very powerful and a specialist in magic. Wouldn't be surprised if Gast simply defeated them all.

U8: I think the Androids' directive was "kill Goku". With Goku terminated in Namek by Freeza, they probably never awoke. Also it's likely the Frost Demons simply went to Earth and sold/destroyed it.

U13: I think so. The Z Fighters tried to beat Babidi's group but were owned, because they were too weak.

U19: Probably same as U8, though the Heloites have enough firepower to defeat the Androids.

U7: But how exactly did the events play out?

U8: And what did Dr Gero do?

U13: So did Buu awaken? Did he just never happen to come across the Saiyans?

U19: And how did they handle Buu?

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 3, 2022 15:22:25 GMT

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Post by verdimon07 on Feb 3, 2022 15:22:25 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 13:14:12 GMT hector said:

Feb 3, 2022 2:00:50 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

U7: By overpowering them. Gast is very powerful and a specialist in magic. Wouldn't be surprised if Gast simply defeated them all.

U8: I think the Androids' directive was "kill Goku". With Goku terminated in Namek by Freeza, they probably never awoke. Also it's likely the Frost Demons simply went to Earth and sold/destroyed it.

U13: I think so. The Z Fighters tried to beat Babidi's group but were owned, because they were too weak.

U19: Probably same as U8, though the Heloites have enough firepower to defeat the Androids.

U7: But how exactly did the events play out?

U8: And what did Dr Gero do?

U13: So did Buu awaken? Did he just never happen to come across the Saiyans?

U19: And how did they handle Buu?

U7 don't know were but according to salgar goku died of the heart virus so my guess is the androids destroyed earth gohan was killed by dabura being even weaker then normal babdi decided to travel the unverise for energy gast killed him and buu cell woke up got the androids gast killed him to and trunks might exsist guessing what happend to vegeta thorn is killed by one of the two threats
U8 i don't know gero just gives up
U13 vegeta killed dabura and babdi before buu is born with super sayian 2
U19 same as U13 dabura is as strong as begining of cell games perfect cell so one ultra waver and nanon machines so buu never born
this just guess work though i'm sure someone could give a better reason

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 3, 2022 15:53:25 GMT

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Post by NamelessSaiyan on Feb 3, 2022 15:53:25 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 13:14:12 GMT hector said:

Feb 3, 2022 2:00:50 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

U7: By overpowering them. Gast is very powerful and a specialist in magic. Wouldn't be surprised if Gast simply defeated them all.

U8: I think the Androids' directive was "kill Goku". With Goku terminated in Namek by Freeza, they probably never awoke. Also it's likely the Frost Demons simply went to Earth and sold/destroyed it.

U13: I think so. The Z Fighters tried to beat Babidi's group but were owned, because they were too weak.

U19: Probably same as U8, though the Heloites have enough firepower to defeat the Androids.

U7: But how exactly did the events play out?

U8: And what did Dr Gero do?

U13: So did Buu awaken? Did he just never happen to come across the Saiyans?

U19: And how did they handle Buu?

U7 is very difficult to predict because it happened much differently. We know Vegeta became an SSJ1 at least. It's possible Goku became one as well (maybe even against Vegeta!). But, if Goku died from the virus as verdimon07 said, then Trunks never arrived in this universe, which means the Z Fighters would still be as strong as base SSJ1 and would be easily defeated. Someone (Kami-sama?) calls Gast to fix things. Then Gast eliminates Buu and friends since he's not as dumb as Vegeta.

If U8 split from U12, then neither A19 nor A20 exist, which means Gero didn't turn himself into android. It's very possible the other androids never awaken, Cell included. Or maybe Freeza blasts the Earth to terrorize the surviving Z Fighters. Knowing Salagir, I wonder if his reason for Buu not being in this universe is because the Frost Demons are too weak to supply Buu with energy (although Pui Pui is much weaker than Freeza).

Just realized I mistook U11 for U13! lol In U13 it's hard to say... In all truth, Babidi's plan only worked in U18 because Vegeta gave himself up. I doubt U13 Vegeta would have been this dumb even though he's an even bigger arrogant prick. He could probably defeat Dabura himself while the rest tortures/kills Babidi. However, considering Vegeta arrives in the tournament as an SSJ2, it's possible Dabura was the trigger for him. They must have killed them both before Buu awakened, otherwise they'd be destroyed.

And in U19 it's actually possible Babidi ignored the Heloites since their strength is not based on power level but on technology. Or they carbonitized Buu.

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 5, 2022 14:08:10 GMT

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Post by hector on Feb 5, 2022 14:08:10 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 15:53:25 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

Feb 3, 2022 13:14:12 GMT hector said:

U7: But how exactly did the events play out?

U8: And what did Dr Gero do?

U13: So did Buu awaken? Did he just never happen to come across the Saiyans?

U19: And how did they handle Buu?

U7 is very difficult to predict because it happened much differently. We know Vegeta became an SSJ1 at least. It's possible Goku became one as well (maybe even against Vegeta!). But, if Goku died from the virus as verdimon07 said, then Trunks never arrived in this universe, which means the Z Fighters would still be as strong as base SSJ1 and would be easily defeated. Someone (Kami-sama?) calls Gast to fix things. Then Gast eliminates Buu and friends since he's not as dumb as Vegeta.

If U8 split from U12, then neither A19 nor A20 exist, which means Gero didn't turn himself into android. It's very possible the other androids never awaken, Cell included. Or maybe Freeza blasts the Earth to terrorize the surviving Z Fighters. Knowing Salagir, I wonder if his reason for Buu not being in this universe is because the Frost Demons are too weak to supply Buu with energy (although Pui Pui is much weaker than Freeza).

Just realized I mistook U11 for U13! lol In U13 it's hard to say... In all truth, Babidi's plan only worked in U18 because Vegeta gave himself up. I doubt U13 Vegeta would have been this dumb even though he's an even bigger arrogant prick. He could probably defeat Dabura himself while the rest tortures/kills Babidi. However, considering Vegeta arrives in the tournament as an SSJ2, it's possible Dabura was the trigger for him. They must have killed them both before Buu awakened, otherwise they'd be destroyed.

And in U19 it's actually possible Babidi ignored the Heloites since their strength is not based on power level but on technology. Or they carbonitized Buu.

Whatever happened, Salagir should show it to us.

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 10, 2022 17:22:07 GMT via mobile

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Post by Son Pan on Feb 10, 2022 17:22:07 GMT

Feb 3, 2022 0:31:08 GMT hector said:

Universe 7
-How exactly did Gast defeat Androids/Cell/Buu?
-Where did Vegeta go?

Universe 8
-What did Dr Gero do? Did he forget about his plans for world domination just because Goku wasn't there?
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 13
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 17
-How exactly did Cell defeat Bojack and his gang?

Universe 19
-Same questions as in Universe 8.

I believe Salagir answered Babidi just didn’t find people with enough energy to revive Buu in U6 and U8. I remember asking those questions myself. Someone asked on Q&A sessions. It is a unsatisfactory answer and it ignores how in DBM Babidi can take energy from his own minions. I don’t think Salagir factored in Babidi in universes like 6 and 8 to be honest.

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Feb 10, 2022 18:40:27 GMT

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Post by godjacob on Feb 10, 2022 18:40:27 GMT

Feb 10, 2022 17:22:07 GMT Son Pan said:

Feb 3, 2022 0:31:08 GMT hector said:

Universe 7
-How exactly did Gast defeat Androids/Cell/Buu?
-Where did Vegeta go?

Universe 8
-What did Dr Gero do? Did he forget about his plans for world domination just because Goku wasn't there?
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 13
-Did Babidi go to Earth?

Universe 17
-How exactly did Cell defeat Bojack and his gang?

Universe 19
-Same questions as in Universe 8.

I believe Salagir answered Babidi just didn’t find people with enough energy to revive Buu in U6 and U8. I remember asking those questions myself. Someone asked on Q&A sessions. It is a unsatisfactory answer and it ignores how in DBM Babidi can take energy from his own minions. I don’t think Salagir factored in Babidi in universes like 6 and 8 to be honest.

I remember this being especially dumb reasoning for Universe 6, cause Bojack and his gang exist. Certainly a Perfect Cell-tier foe and a gang of Ascended SS Tier warriors would more than get Babidi's attention?

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Stuff that remained unclear in 'story-known' universes Dec 11, 2022 21:41:03 GMT

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Post by happywarrior99 on Dec 11, 2022 21:41:03 GMT

Universe 1
-What happened to U1 Kami and U1 Piccolo? What happened to U1 Old Kai? If U1 Old Kai is still alive, why did the other U1 Kaioshins no tried to break the U1 Z Sword?

Universe 2
-Is U2 Lavos (or U2 Time Devourer) going to make an appearance on a DBM U2 special or a DBM minicomic?

Universe 6
-What happened to U6 Lord Slug, U6 Hoi, U6 Hiduregarn, U6 Broly, U6 Babidi, U6 Dabura and U6 Buu?

Universe 8
-What happened to U8 Lord Slug, U8 Hoi, U8 Hiduregarn, U8 Bojack, U8 Broly, U8 Babidi, U8 Dabura and U8 Buu?

Universe 9
-What happened to U9 Cell, U9 Lord Slug, U9 Hoi, U9 Hiduregarn, U9 Bojack, U9 Broly, U9 Babidi, U9 Dabura and U9 Buu? I wonder what happened to U9 Cell.

Universe 10
-What happened to U10 Kami and U10 Piccolo? What happened to U10 Old Kai? If U10 Old Kai is still alive, why did the other U10 Kaioshins no tried to break the U10 Z Sword?

Universe 11
-What happened to U11 Lord Slug, U11 Hoi, U11 Hiduregarn, U11 Bojack and U11 Broly? Did U11 Babidi tried to majinize U11 Lord Slug, U11 Hoi, U11 Hiduregarn, U11 Bojack and U11 Broly?

Universe 12
-What happened to U12 Lord Slug, U12 Hoi, U12 Hiduregarn, U12 Bojack and U12 Broly? Is U12 Buu still alive?

Universe 13
-What happened to U13 Lord Slug, U13 Hoi, U13 Hiduregarn, U13 Bojack, U13 Broly, U13 Babidi, U13 Dabura and U13 Buu?

Universe 14
-What happened to U14 Lord Slug, U14 Hoi, U14 Hiduregarn, U14 Broly, U14 Android 16 and U14 Android 19?

Universe 15
-What happened to U15 Lord Slug, U15 Hoi, U15 Hiduregarn, U15 Bojack, U15 Broly, U15 Babidi, U15 Dabura and U15 Buu?

Universe 16
-What happened to U16 Lord Slug, U16 Hoi and U16 Hiduregarn?

Universe 17
-Did any of the U17 Cell Jrs. ever growth to adulthood? Can the U17 Cell Jrs. actually growth to adulthood? What happened to U17 Lord Slug, U17 Bojack, U17 Babidi, U17 Dabura and U17 Buu?

Universe 18
-What happened to U18 Cell? U18 Krillin and U12 Trunks never directly attacked U18 Cell's body nor did they have (at the time) the powerlevel required to destroy U18 Cell's core. Sure, they destroyed Gero's laboratory with ki blasts when they were outside that laboratory but their ki blasts did not directly target U18 Cell's body.
Unlike U12 Cell, U18 Cell's body was never show to be directly targeted by a ki blast.

Universe 19
-What happened to U19 Lord Slug, U19 Bojack and U19 Buu? Zen Buu showed that Heliotes's armors energy are compatible with Buu's body, so did U19 Babidi tried to use U19 Bojack's gang energy and those Heliotes's armors energy to try to unseal U19 Buu?

Universe 20
-Who froze the U20 Broly who survived a black hole?

Feb 3, 2022 15:22:25 GMT verdimon07 said:

U8 i don't know gero just gives up

Gero's motivation is avenging his own son.

Even if Goku dies, Gero still has Master Roshi and Ox King to blame for killing most members of the Red Ribbon Army, which is why U9 Gero still made the Androids despite U9 Goku never arriving on Earth.

Feb 10, 2022 17:22:07 GMT Son Pan said:

I believe Salagir answered Babidi just didn’t find people with enough energy to revive Buu in U6 and U8.

Universe 6 has U6 Bojack, U6 Zangya, U6 Bidou, U6 Bujin, U6 Shin, U6 Kibito and U6 Hirudegarn to give enough energy to revive U6 Buu.

Feb 3, 2022 15:53:25 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

It's very possible the other androids never awaken, Cell included.

Universe 9 showed that even if Goku is dead, Gero would still make the androids anyway. I wonder what happened to U9 Cell.

Feb 3, 2022 15:53:25 GMT NamelessSaiyan said:

Or maybe Freeza blasts the Earth to terrorize the surviving Z Fighters.

IIRC the only surviving U8 Z Fighter on Universe 8 is U8 Master Roshi, because U8 Goku was killed by U8 Frieza, the other U8 Z fighters were killed by the U8 Ginyu Force. I think U8 Frieza has no reason to consider U8 Earth a treat, because all U8 Earth survivors are weaker than U8 Cyborg Tao.