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Post by عمار on Jul 7, 2023 20:50:42 GMT
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Post by عمار on Jul 10, 2023 0:04:57 GMT
Yep! This is not Appule. U8 Appule was on namek just like his U18 counterpart. And as was stated in chapter 38 "all Freeza's soldiers that went to namek are dead". As for Cui/Kiwi being removed from this page... One of our colorist (who shall not be named) insist that he's dead and should not appear in this page. And while we were confused about this decision, none of us cared enough to stop him. xD
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 11, 2023 21:28:45 GMT
I'm curious how is Bardock still so strong in U10? I believe DBM is still using the Bardock: Father of Goku movie as its basis right. That made it clear Bardock only got so strong because he kept getting badly injured and healed, receiving a lot of zenkai to boost him from a low level to rivaling the elites. In U10 they don't have healing chambers since Freeza never came into contact with them. Are we led to believe U10 Bardock still got a lot of zenkai to boost his power up? If U10 Kakarot was killed for being weak, I'm curious how Bardock avoided such a fate.
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Post by عمار on Jul 12, 2023 18:57:10 GMT
I'm curious how is Bardock still so strong in U10? I believe DBM is still using the Bardock: Father of Goku movie as its basis right. That made it clear Bardock only got so strong because he kept getting badly injured and healed, receiving a lot of zenkai to boost him from a low level to rivaling the elites. In U10 they don't have healing chambers since Freeza never came into contact with them. Are we led to believe U10 Bardock still got a lot of zenkai to boost his power up? If U10 Kakarot was killed for being weak, I'm curious how Bardock avoided such a fate. I believe Salagir mentioned that Bardock got so strong thanks to the saiyans using the Tuffles technology to go out of their planet. So, U10 Bardock is even weaker than his U18 counterpart.
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Post by عمار on Jul 12, 2023 18:57:34 GMT
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Post by flynt on Jul 13, 2023 5:45:09 GMT
Man, I wish we've gotten more interaction with Bardock and his grandsons and great-granddaughter. Universe 3 Bardock never really ponder on them even though they are his legacy, even in another universe, and this bardock only had this and the Pan interaction.
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Post by عمار on Jul 13, 2023 9:56:46 GMT
Man, I wish we've gotten more interaction with Bardock and his grandsons and great-granddaughter. Universe 3 Bardock never really ponder on them even though they are his legacy, even in another universe, and this bardock only had this and the Pan interaction. Maybe we could add interaction between U3 Bardock and U18 crew after his fight with Cold. But I won't make any promises. The thing I noticed that Salagir doesn't care much about "family reunion" when it comes to Bardock and Goku.
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Post by flynt on Jul 13, 2023 23:57:23 GMT
Man, I wish we've gotten more interaction with Bardock and his grandsons and great-granddaughter. Universe 3 Bardock never really ponder on them even though they are his legacy, even in another universe, and this bardock only had this and the Pan interaction. Maybe we could add interaction between U3 Bardock and U18 crew after his fight with Cold. But I won't make any promises. The thing I noticed that Salagir doesn't care much about "family reunion" when it comes to Bardock and Goku. Yeah, it's a shame, I know Salagir portrays the Saiyans as heartless sociopath, with some reason behind it. But it still a missed opportunity for Bardock to not feel pride that his son is the Top dog in his universe, especially over Vegeta.
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Post by jbame on Jul 14, 2023 0:16:43 GMT
Man, I wish we've gotten more interaction with Bardock and his grandsons and great-granddaughter. Universe 3 Bardock never really ponder on them even though they are his legacy, even in another universe, and this bardock only had this and the Pan interaction. In the novel there is a small added scene of Goku going to meet U10 Bardock. Nothing really comes out of it since it's very awkward for Goku and Bardock couldn't care less about his son, but it's something. EDIT: I had no clue Cui was even in U18. I can see that salagir didnt care either since he didnt even appear in the majin rebellion as far as im aware.
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Post by عمار on Jul 14, 2023 18:33:01 GMT
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 14, 2023 22:58:41 GMT
We have our Namek reunion, with U10 Nail meeting up with U18 Piccolo. I like how Piccolo warned Nail about the Saiyans throughout the multiverse. I know Vegeta's character development is usually the most noticeable and talked about for DB, but seeing this scene again just reminds me of just how far Piccolo has come as a person as well. He used to be a mustache trolling villain who aspiring to be evil overlord just like his father/previous life. Now he has this bond with his people and showing his distain from the wanton destruction he used to revel in.
@ Goku and Bardock front:
I can see why Salagir didn't go that route. I can see Goku not caring too much about Bardock, since he was raised by Gohan. While Goku learned to accept his Saiyan heritage in the original manga, as far as declaring himself as one, he still very much sees himself as an Earthing. Goku wanting to fight in his own gi against Cell rather than get new Saiyan armor from Bulma demonstrated that perfectly. Goku didn't exactly have a good time with his last family reunion with Raditz. I can see Goku thinking his father wouldn't be that different and not want much to do with him.
Bardock is a tricky one. This Bardock is based off the original incarnation from the movie we see Bardock didn't care for his sons much. He didn't seem to like Goku started off with such a low power level. It stands to reason he probably looks down on his sons for being low level warriors, ironically enough, so I can see him not being that attached to Goku or Raditz. I can see why U10 Bardock and U3 Bardock weren't too eager to bond. Having said that it would been funny to see either of the Bardock's reactions to how strong Goku has become, since their Kakarot is usually considered weak. If U3 Bardock's reaction to Raditz was any indication, I could just see Bardock asking why his Kakarot wasn't as strong as U18 and bad mouth him.
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Post by mysticgotenks on Jul 16, 2023 3:00:47 GMT
I wonder if Universe 10 Kakarot died of a heart virus…
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Post by عمار on Jul 16, 2023 19:06:20 GMT
...I just realized there's an error in the text/plothole. Nail mentioned the "smallest of the Gods" which I believe he meant Shin, but as chapter 25 shows, the one who killed Freeza and his family is the North Kaioshin. Of course, the white & black version of this page came before chapter 25 (and Salagir might forgot about this line when he wrote the script for chapter 25) which means the error was actually in chapter 25, but it should have been edited in our version. Oh well...
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 16, 2023 19:25:12 GMT
I forgot that East/Shin was the one who killed Freeza and his family in U1/U10. I wonder if U1/U10 special will be changed to show East kill the Cold family for colors. With the exception of Grand I really liked how DBM has used the gods. Even if they aren’t the strongest we do see them put in work in fights and helping the others when crisis happens. This even allowed Shin to do a lot more and arguably redeemed him after Toriyama’s usage of him.
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Post by عمار on Jul 16, 2023 20:39:35 GMT
I forgot that East/Shin was the one who killed Freeza and his family in U1/U10. I wonder if U1/U10 special will be changed to show East kill the Cold family for colors. With the exception of Grand I really liked how DBM has used the gods. Even if they aren’t the strongest we do see them put in work in fights and helping the others when crisis happens. This even allowed Shin to do a lot more and arguably redeemed him after Toriyama’s usage of him. I think I mentioned this before but I will say it again: The specials are not included in the colored version. At first I ask the other colorists to draw them but they said if we include the specials we won't be releasing the pages in this century! xD And honestly, even if we colored them, we won't be changing anything except the dialogue in this page. (which the only reason we didn't is because I just noticed it now! xD)
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Post by عمار on Jul 17, 2023 17:03:38 GMT
POV: Nail is gassing himself! xD
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Post by Jason9000 on Jul 18, 2023 1:10:25 GMT
I forgot that East/Shin was the one who killed Freeza and his family in U1/U10. I wonder if U1/U10 special will be changed to show East kill the Cold family for colors. With the exception of Grand I really liked how DBM has used the gods. Even if they aren’t the strongest we do see them put in work in fights and helping the others when crisis happens. This even allowed Shin to do a lot more and arguably redeemed him after Toriyama’s usage of him. I think I mentioned this before but I will say it again: The specials are not included in the colored version. At first I ask the other colorists to draw them but they said if we include the specials we won't be releasing the pages in this century! xD And honestly, even if we colored them, we won't be changing anything except the dialogue in this page. (which the only reason we didn't is because I just noticed it now! xD) You would need two separate teams for everything. One team for the main story and another for the specials. Even if you somehow got one dedicated colorist per chapter, that would still be a tall order. The logistics of this must be a pain. I don’t envy your job. I think the easiest aspect is just editing the dialogue for the speech bubbles so it’s more natural in each native language.
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Post by عمار on Jul 19, 2023 17:09:34 GMT
You would need two separate teams for everything. One team for the main story and another for the specials. Even if you somehow got one dedicated colorist per chapter, that would still be a tall order. The logistics of this must be a pain. I don’t envy your job. I think the easiest aspect is just editing the dialogue for the speech bubbles so it’s more natural in each native language. The key is finding a team to do that and we barely have a team to do the main story. The main story pages are already a lot.
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Post by عمار on Jul 19, 2023 17:24:21 GMT
Yes, we replaced the "old" Ultras with "current" ones. The redraws is by Frorenst. The black & white version of the page: (We altered Phipsil's suit in the colored version, but I kept it the same in the Arabic version of the page)
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