Some thoughts on a U13 Namek Saga
May 29, 2024 6:04:37 GMT
Post by drewsaga on May 29, 2024 6:04:37 GMT
It seems like we may not be seeing a special on U13 anytime soon (not that I am aware of), but I couldn't help recently after rereading some of the U13 specials how hype it'd be to see it. But I wonder how the Saiyans managed to beat Frieza (obviously Vegeta was the one to become Super Sayian but how does Vegeta go from like 24K to 3M PL without like 2-3 more Zenkais (Which I don't think Frieza would be so quick to give him that chance).
We know that Slug is another party to the conflict (though his minions seem to be out of the picture, at least two of them are). As for Frieza, I don't think he knows anything about the Dragon Balls netiher.
So I had an idea on how the Namek Saga/Frieza Saga would play out (I like to see how DBM does it one day though I feel like it might be tough to pull it off without it being like 6-8 Chapters long, not that I'd mind but I am sure the artists would because of how long drawings take to make):
Vegeta, Kakarotto, Nappa and Raditz enter Planet Namek to take the Dragon Balls to achieve immortality (well Kakarotto already has that so he is just there for the fun of murdering people). And of course the regular Namekian warriors stand no chance against even Raditz much less the other three. Since Frieza knows where the Saiyans are but not the Dragon Balls, I think Frieza just sends in Dodoria, Zarbon, Cui and other goons to apprehend the Saiyans. Of course Oozaru Kakarotto, Oozaru Raditz (I don't see Kakarotto and Raditz standing up to them without Oozaru), Nappa, and Vegeta together manage to beat them (Vegeta likely kills Cui of course because you know, gotta keep up that constant though U8 Cui was spared from that fate). Before Dodoria gets killed he spills the beans about the truth of Planet Vegeta and they all find out Frieza was responsible for wiping out the Saiyan's homeworld and while Vegeta didn't particularly care about his homeworld, he felt like a fool as does the other Saiyans for ever serving Frieza. Slug of course by then enters the frey and is on Namek and he goes looking for the Dragon Balls and the Saiyans hide because they know that Slug is too much for them but they hold on to some of the Dragon Balls since Slug can't get his wish if he does not have them all.
(I wasn't planning to involve power levels too much but why not since the Namek Saga was already full of power levels, this is just my estimate of where they'd be, not necessarily accurate):
Kakarotto (Oozaru): 15K (30K, and yes, DBM uses 2x Multipliers for reasons I can't understand cause in DBZ it's 10x)
Raditz (Oozaru): 8K (16K)
Nappa: 15K
Vegeta: 24K
Cui: 18K
Dodoria: 20K-22K
Zarbon (Transformed): 23K (28K Transformed but whose to say he even gets the chance to)
But then things get bad for the Saiyans as Frieza calls in the Ginyu Force to handle the Sayians. They arrive on Namek and Frieza also plans to visit Namek since Frieza is concerned about the threat that Saiyans pose, but Frieza makes a point to not enter Namek just yet (he still has no clue about the Dragon Balls yet, but he wants the Ginyu Force to apprehend the Saiyans rather than kill them to make them talk). The Ginyu Force manage to find the Saiyans and needless to say, the Ginyu Force wipe the floor with the Saiyans no contest (without another Zenkai, Vegeta couldn't even beat Zarbon by himself much less Recoome), though perhaps the Saiyans manage to kill Guldo. With the Saiyans beaten, they get captured by the Ginyu Force (and of course put in healing pods so that they can be asked for questioning by Frieza himself). And right after the Saiyans are beaten, Slug is confronted by Nail and they have a battle, but Nail gets easily beaten by Slug and Slug manages to gather the Dragon Balls and wishes for Eternal Youth and then kills Porunga in the most "dick-move" type of move ever committed in DBZ history (like King Piccolo killing Shenron). And Guru dies as well probably so the Dragon Balls wouldn't work anyways but that probably happens a bit after.
Slug (Old): 100K
Slug (Prime): 1.5M (idk honestly here, he must certainly be weaker than Final Form Frieza but I feel like to be relevant and actually give the Saiyans any fighting chance against Frieza that Slug would be a relevant party)
Recoome: 45K
Burter: 43K
Jeice: 42K
Nail: 42K
Guldo: 2K
The next part is the Saiyans of course make their escape to return back to Namek and catch Frieza and his minions all by surprise. This makes Frieza very angry and he himself heads for Namek as well (though he still sends the Ginyu Force to fight them) and when he goes to Namek that's when shit goes down. So the battle against the Ginyu Force begins. Unfortunately the Zenkais won't work good enough to overcome all of the Ginyu Force. I suspect that Vegeta uses his technique to turn all four of them into Oozarus and allow them to kill Recoome, Burter and Jeice, but Ginyu manages to hold his own and right when he is winning, Slug comes in and quickly kills Ginyu. Suggesting that even though he doesn't like the Saiyans for what they have done he realizes that he is gonna need their help to take on Frieza and Vegeta agrees to it and of course Kakarotto still wants to smash Slug's teeth in but Raditz convinces him not to.
Vegeta (Oozaru): 30K (60K)
Kakarotto (Oozaru): 24K (48K)
Nappa (Oozaru): 24K (48K)
Raditz (Oozaru): 18K (36K)
Ginyu: 120K
The Sayians are once again badly beat up (Ginyu was still too much and Slug bails them out) and require recovery, Slug decides to make the decision to heal them (against his own interest but he knows he has to deal with Frieza anyways even if he doesn't deal with the Saiyans plus he is far stronger in his youth so he can still contain the Sayians if need be even with their Zenkais, which really start to shoot straight up). Vegeta doesn't have to worry about fatigue and have to sleep to get the full benefit of the next Zenkai. Meanwhile Frieza interrogates the remaining Namekians about what is going on and why are both Sayians and Slug interested in Namek, and that's when he finds out about the Dragon Balls and their ability to grant wishes. This causes Frieza to become furious (and of course he kills the Namekian he was interrogating and probably that whole village in rage as well as getting some of his minions killed) and Frieza uses his scouter and he locates Slug and heads towards him. Guru decides that with little hope if none at all that he has no choice but to take risks and ask Dende to help Slug and the Saiyans against Frieza (it's not like he can do anything anyways).
The Saiyans wake up from their healing chambers with rather large Zenkais compared to the last and have gotten much more powerful since then. Slug decides to lie to Vegeta and the others about using the Dragon Balls to help them even though he destroyed the eternal dragon and knows that the Dragon Balls won't work anymore to try and keep the Saiyans in line (and the Saiyans have no way of knowing for sure whether they should trust Slug or not especially since they know their main enemy anyways is Frieza). Right as they are about to form a strategy, Frieza shows up to fight Slugs and the Saiyans and it starts with Vegeta challenging Frieza and Vegeta and Frieza face each other similar to the fight in DBZ between Vegeta and 3rd Reduction Form Frieza. Frieza then reveals his transformation and Vegeta dares him to transform so now the only person who can fight Frieza effectively now is Slug.
3rd Reduction Form Frieza: 530K
2nd Reduction Form Frieza: 1.2M (trying to remember this one)
Vegeta: 500K
Kakarotto: 360K
Nappa: 240K
Raditz: 220K
Once Frieza is in his transformed state, he overpowers the Saiyans, leaving Vegeta and Kakarotto badly injured with Nappa and Raditz left standing as they were too afraid to do anything. Slug then charges Frieza and that's when they have a throwdown (in similar spirit to Piccolo vs 2nd Reduction Form Frieza actually, a Namekian born from evil fighting Frieza except here Slug still is evil). Dende shows up to help the Saiyans (though obviously he doesn't want to at first, he hesitates until that is, Frieza transforms again). This is where things get really bad for even Slug as once Frieza reaches his First Reduction Form, even Slug in his prime can't beat that so he ends up taking a beating similar to Piccolo vs 1st Reduction Form Frieza. While Dende hesitates, Raditz tries to make a deal with Dende (unlikely that Vegeta will honor it as he will be the decider of that but who knows) and persuade him that the Saiyans won't kill the Namekians if they help the Saiyans defeat Frieza and he offers Dende to stall Frieza with Nappa's help, Nappa sees no choice but to help Raditz in this situation so they team up. Raditz of course turns Oozaru with his lamps (Nappa can't as far as I know since he doesn't have the eye lamps) and tries to stall against Frieza but then much like Slug take a terrible beating. Freiza then decides to transform into his original form just to terrorize the Saiyans and show them how futile fighting Frieza really is. Vegeta and Kakarotto are already healed but Raditz and Nappa are lying on the ground badly injured. Once Frieza reaches his final form, he then quickly kills the already injured Slug. There is a key difference here in that Frieza doesn't know that Dende is the healer, this makes quite a difference in the outcome.
Vegeta: 2.4M
Kakarotto: 1.6M
Raditz (Oozaru): 220K (440K)
Nappa: 240K
3rd Reduction Form Frieza: 2.2M
Slug (Prime): 1.5M
Vegeta being Vegeta believes now that he has become a Super Saiyan and challenges Frieza. The fight plays out the same way as in DBZ (which is to say, Vegeta gets horribly humiliated and likely Frieza tears Vegeta's tail off just for the fun of torturing him, leaving Vegeta humiliated even further), Kakarotto gets fed up with Frieza and in a fury of rage tries to lash out on Frieza but Frieza proceeds to absolutely pound the living crap out of Kakarotto after Vegeta is lying there badly injured since Frieza folds him like laundry. All the while Dende healed Nappa and Raditz so that they can fight another round and stall again so that Vegeta can get healed. Kakarotto out of sheer desperation uses his lamp to turn Oozaru, but then Frieza proceeds to beat him up even more brutally and destroy his tail as well which reverts him back to normal. Dende then proceeds to heal Vegeta while Nappa and Raditz try desperately to fight Frieza but they were helpless against his power and lie on the ground helpless. Vegeta is healed, but Frieza saw Dende heal Vegeta so Frieza instantly kills Dende saying that there will be no more healing. Then the real fight with Vegeta and Frieza begins.
Vegeta: 3.0-3.2M
Kakarotto (Oozaru): 1.6M (3.2M)
Nappa: 720K
Raditz (Oozaru): 640K (1.2M)
Frieza (3%): 3.6M
This Vegeta got one more Zenkai than the one we know so he is elevated to the same level as Goku was against Frieza, except Vegeta does not know the Kaioken so in practice, the result is still the same as it was when Vegeta fought Frieza before, Frieza then shows off 50% of his power to drive the point home on how helpless and pathetic Vegeta is. This was the lowest point for the Saiyans in general, especially for Vegeta for all four of them to be treated like insects, toys to be played with for Frieza's amusement no matter how powerful they became. The level of humiliation and despair Vegeta felt was so intense that a great power awakens from him. Vegeta becomes a Super Saiyan to the awe of Raditz, Nappa and Kakarotto! Almost nobody knows what happened, though I wager Nappa must have heard the story of a Super Saiyan and realizes what Vegeta had become and has formed a newfound respect for the Saiyan Prince (he had already respected him but seeing him as a Saiyan of legend is something else), as has Frieza for now it's Frieza's turn to experience horror. Vegeta proceeds to beat the crap out of Frieza, Frieza powers up to 100%, only for Vegeta to clap Frieza even more brutally and Vegeta enjoying every minute of it, returning the sadism Frieza showed him earlier. Frieza of course then begs for mercy (much like he did with Goku), but come on, this is Vegeta so we know what happens. Vegeta blasts Frieza straight into oblivion and defeats the tyrant. Too bad the universe was never saved, because now it's under new management (or at least after the Saiyans go after Cooler and Cold later on) for Vegeta takes Frieza's place as a tyrant and he is just as horrible as Frieza. I would bet that Vegeta would ultimately destroy Namek himself and leave when he and his other Saiyan companions were done with the planet so sadly Guru's gamble does not pay off at all.
Super Saiyan Vegeta: 150-160M
Frieza (50%): 60M
Frieza (100%): 120M
At least those are some ideas I had of how the Namek Saga would play out. I thought I share it (can someone remember how to do spoiler tags, I wasn't sure how to do them though I wanted to do them to hide the power level stuff in case some people didn't want to see them).