U13 Immortality

Where does that come from?

I think it would've been said by now.

Though it would be interesting if the only two options to get rid of Immortal Zamasu is to either destroy Goku Black's time ring/remove it or vaporize Zamasu into literal nothingness and I know how they can do this: SSB/SSG Gogeta/Vegitto.

Either way I think they'd at least hinted it.

Zamasu is slightly off topic since that's DBS not DBM but immortality between the 2 series is done quite differently I bet.

Well, for what it's worth, in the U16 Vegito novelisation, there is an immortal character.
He can't die, he's another aberration of the universe, much like Vegito himself. In the case of instant pulverisation, his spirit would still be lurking around and would eventually regenerate, though not fast, and definitly not without pain.

So on that ground, there is some reason to acknowledge immortality in the continuity of DBM.


That being said, I don't personally ascribe to the theory that anyone in U13 is immortal. It would be hilarious if Kakarot had gotten immortality and "beat" Vegeta to it, but it would fall flat after that.
I think the theory came from seeing Kakarot take mountains of punishment and never die. That's normal, he's not human, and even by Saiyan standards seems pretty hard to kill. (Same applies to Goku)

SARGE WHY (in bold) XD clearly you meant "it's just speculation" lol

I think the reason for this theory came about because of Kakarotto.

Goku is shown to take Picollo's Special Beam Cannon to the stomach/abdomen where you can easily stay alive for a bit till you bleed out and/or your remaining organs shut down but Goku dies pretty quickly where Kakarotto takes it to the chest where his heart and lungs are and manages to gain consciousness, yell at the others and call for a healer surviving with a near instant fatal wound for several minutes.

Though this could just show that Kakarotto is a tougher son of a b**** than Goku was.

Either way I say Kakarotto is tougher than he seems and not immortal.

If you've ever read the comic Oglaf (NSFW, incidentally), there was a character like that - Morag the Immortal, who wound up fighting a giant monster and getting her entire body bitten off.

Turns out that you need lungs to talk. They had to blow into her neckstump.

Using your images for disproving the theory.

U18 Fisting Kakarotto.
The back of his armor hasn't been broken through, suggesting Vegeta only went through Kakarot's chest area. Raditz didn't hear Vegeta say "leave him, don't heal him yet" so that's more of too much trust from Raditz. And Vegeta wanted the bastard to shut up, I don't see why he couldn't take advantage of that during this time when he's unconscious, but that doesn't directly prove Kakarot's immortal.

Raditz "cannot kill his brother." Notice how Tien said "so there's a heart in this Saiyan" but it doesn't look like Old Kai disagrees with that statement. If he did, he probably would've said "you're not entirely right on that one Mr. Cyclops. He cannot kill his brother, yet he does not have any attachment(lack of better word) towards his brother, his heart is still malicious towards him, something else is preventing him from killing is brother" which would've been a bigger reveal. Still, I'll give this one a slide.

"I gotchu bro!" He knew his tactic would've killed everyone... every Helior on the planet, an Oozaru with 10x strength and more durability was likely to survive the collapse. (Likely, but Kakarot appeared to be near death.) Still, he protected Raditz bc he didn't wanna be alone again (see the Past U13, "why am I always alone" or something like that).


Idk man, most of these are ambiguous in meaning they could go either way, nothing of these scenes are truly a "Spoiler-forshadowing." (supposed to mock "spoiler warning" but the parallel might have been lost.) If we want a standard, take a look at "Ginyu = Cold" where the "that music sounds like your parties," Frost demon could control 4th form easily?... seemed unlikely of a motive, for anyone except Frieza who lost pathetically to Goku and Cooler who wanted to one-up his shitbrother, (Cold in DBM had his two transformations, his 2nd restriction form was supposedly near Frieza's full power/Mecha form) and the spiral dodge from Bra's attack, ain't no way that isn't Ginyu being fabulous. A normal person would've sidestepped that and moved... sideways. The two augmentation forms implies Cold trained... his body did, but no one would train that much, not even Cooler got a second form. Plus, the big one, "Someone from U8 isn't in their natural body." Those are huge call to foreshadow about why Cold seemed to be different compared to the normal Frost Demon.

Kakarotto is immortal? Unless he made dialogue references to "my life doesn't matter" or some quote as such, it's everyone else sneaking in a line or two.
Even then, the best an immortal insane Majin SS could do at this point is just kill the audience easily, not like Ginyu who could potentially swap bodies into Bra or Vegito and still use their powers to the fullest... SS2 Brayu?

I'm skeptical too... Kakaroth having such a big advantage over anybody, and not boasting about it? Nope. Don't buy it. Not until official confirmation.

About the incongruence of Naurb and him, one died and another din't: maybe the Heloite aimed for the heart, but is their heart in the same spot as a Saiyan's? That Laser is so small that even a few centimeters matter, the line between instant death and something manageable by a Majin-spell.
And Kakaroth is a hell of a tank even without it!