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Post by Azoth on Sept 19, 2016 22:35:34 GMT
I agree. He's so powerful already that the Old Kai just wouldn't have much to coax out, unlike Gohan. We can't be too sure about it. Sure Satan is one who trained a lot but all he did was basic physical training. He lacked any spiritual one so I'd say there is still quite some room for him to improve. Take note that Krillin who also trained his whole life was convinced he can go no further and yet received quite a boost from Elder Guru's inferior potential draw. The Champ beat Cell, Buu, and Beerus. The only person who can rival him is Yamcha.
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Post by Dr. Wheelo on Sept 19, 2016 23:23:33 GMT
I always figured anyone can have high potential, it's just that most people don't know how to even begin tapping into it. I'd take Videl for instance, she was a bit above average human who learned to fly after a week with Gohan, a world she never would have accessed otherwise. Have Mr. Satan go through all of the right teachers (Roshi, Korin, Kami, King Kai) and I can see him coming out of it as a respectable fighter. DBM has his daughter reaching 3rd Form King Cold levels and Elder Kaioshin claims she could even jump above restrained Cold with his powerup, so I think that lends more credence to my thought process as far as Salagir's Multiverse is concerned.
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Post by Son Pan on Sept 19, 2016 23:38:42 GMT
Curious to see a universe where Goku and Gohan had succeeded in fusing with the portara earrings and they never defused. A fusion with Gohan's potential and magical enhancement, along with Goku's drive to improve himself, but puts protecting people over the love a battle. It would make for some interesting conversations with Vegetto, Pan, Goku, and Gohan. It might even give us some cool conversations with Cell and Majin Buu.
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Post by Ashanark on Sept 19, 2016 23:54:36 GMT
Curious to see a universe where Goku and Gohan had succeeded in fusing with the portara earrings and they never defused. A fusion with Gohan's potential and magical enhancement, along with Goku's drive to improve himself, but puts protecting people over the love a battle. It would make for some interesting conversations with Vegetto, Pan, Goku, and Gohan. It might even give us some cool conversations with Cell and Majin Buu. That sounds interesting. Gokhan would be a more "ideal" Vegetto, since he would still have a pure heart. If he ever got tired of not having anyone at his level to fight, then maybe the Gohan side could kick in and focus on being a scholar. And as an added plus, going by DBM logic it'd be sweet little Pan who would be born with beastly power, not angry Bra.
Would Gokhan be stronger than Vegetto, I wonder? Gohan was stronger than Vegeta, after all, but I thought I heard somewhere that Goku and Vegeta being rivals made their fusion a lot more powerful than it should have been.
Though for Gokhan's sake I sure hope he could convince Chi-Chi and Videl to fuse...
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Post by Son Pan on Sept 20, 2016 1:25:40 GMT
That sounds interesting. Gokhan would be a more "ideal" Vegetto, since he would still have a pure heart. If he ever got tired of not having anyone at his level to fight, then maybe the Gohan side could kick in and focus on being a scholar. And as an added plus, going by DBM logic it'd be sweet little Pan who would be born with beastly power, not angry Bra.
Would Gokhan be stronger than Vegetto, I wonder? Gohan was stronger than Vegeta, after all, but I thought I heard somewhere that Goku and Vegeta being rivals made their fusion a lot more powerful than it should have been.
Though for Gokhan's sake I sure hope he could convince Chi-Chi and Videl to fuse...
I don't foresee that being a solution for Chi-chi in that scenario. Even if she and Videl did fuse part of the new being would still be parent to Gohan component. Chi-chi would realize that and bow out because of it. I would rather not think about how this fusions feelings for Chi-chi and Videl might mix or clash. The family dynamics would probably be more screwed up than U16. Goten going to view him as a dad or brother? If Pan was still born in this scenario would that make Goten both her uncle and brother? I guess these bits would be the juice of that story. Goku and Gohan being such a big part of everyone's lives it might impact some of them more than others. A lot of Son family drama.
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Post by whatever on Sept 28, 2016 1:13:36 GMT
UNIVERSE 21 (Garlic Jr) -Garlic defeats Piccolo/Gohan/Krillin. When Goku/Vegeta/Freeza/Cold arrive on Earth, they get infected by the water. -Universes fighters at the tournament: Garlic Jr and his brainwashed slaves (Goku/Vegeta/Freeza/Cold). -Twists to add spice: Garlic has learned how to control his bulky form without losing speed. Despite being brainwashed, Goku hasn't lost his ability to go SSJ (or maybe the brainwash even acted like the majin charm and unlocked Goku's higher transformations).
UNIVERSE 22 (19/20) -Androids Nineteen and Dr Gero defeat Z fighters. 17/18 remain dormant. Years later, when Cell wakes up, Gero takes him to absorb the sleeping 17/18. Cell remains loyal to his creator. Gero does other researches as well, since he's not just a villain but also a scientist. -Universes fighters: Gero, Nineteen, Perfect Cell. -Twists to add spice: It turns out Gero and Nineteen have become unbelievably strong by spending decades of absorbing countless of humans or even beings at other planets. Cell is the weakest of the group! Everybody else wonders how strong Gero/Nineteen have become.
UNIVERSE 23 (Mr Satan) -A semi surrealistic universe where, for some reason, Mr Satan is as strong as he claimed to be. The divergence happens at Cell Games, where Mr Satan shows up and easily defeats Cell. When Gohan meets Videl at high school and eventually falls for her, Mr Satan declares that only the one who manages to defeat him will gain the privilege to date his daughter. They start fighting, but Mr Satan has the upper hand. Driven by his mad love for Videl, Gohan transforms into SSJ2 for the first time. However, Mr Satan still defeats him easily. At Babidi saga, Mr Satan does not follow the others to Babidi's spaceship, but, when Fat Buu emerges, he fights him. During the fight, Satan and Buu come to like each other, so Buu goes to live with Satan. Goten and Trunks are so impressed by this fighter, who far outstrips their parents, that they decide to become his students. -Universes fighters: Mr Satan, Videl, Goten, Trunks (the universes Fat Buu stayed home, because he was bored of fighting). -Twists to add spice: Mr Satan is by far the strongest of this universes group. No way for anyone to tell how strong he can become when he gets to fight a worthy opponent. Videl is the second strongest of the group. Her personality is different from the other universes Videls, she was never interested in boys and she has become a cold careerist, like U16 Bra. Goten and Trunks are stronger than any other universes Goten/Trunks, but they don't transform into SSJ, fly or use ki blasts, because their teacher considers all that stuff parlor tricks.
UNIVERSE 24 (Pilaf) -Pilaf gets his wish to become the world's ruler. All earthlings are brainwashed into accepting him as their leader. Over the years, he gains access to Red Ribbon's technology and obtains machinery that repels the Saiyans' attack. He proceeds to overthrow Frost Demons and conquers the universe. -Universes fighters: Pilaf, Mai and Sue. -Twists to add spice: All three of the fighters turn out to have been turned into Androids. When things get tough in a tournament's fight, they reveal their secret weapon. They take out a capsule with a pod. They're like the walking pods they fought Kid Goku with, but their technology is now much more advanced.
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Post by sardorim on Sept 28, 2016 16:42:17 GMT
Universe ?
Broly - King of All Saiyans
-Vegeta dies at childbirth due to complications, taking his mother with him.
-King Vegeta takes many lovers but refuses to remarry.
-Word reaches King Vegeta that a child, Broly, is born with an incredible power level.
-King Vegeta has Paragus killed in secret as well as Kakorotto, whom is the unlucky child found next to Broly, as the public knows that Paragus had a child so he needed a scorched body.
-Bardock is informed that his child died and the body is lost. Knowing his child's weak power level he doesn't investigate further, Gine is saddened and pushes Bardock to be a better father towards Raditz.
-Eventually King Vegeta has Broly revealed as his blood heir to his people and claims that Broly is destined for greatness. King Vegeta has his favored Concubine made into his wife on the grounds that she claims that Broly is her child after months of absence to fake a pregnancy.
-Broly never goes insane, though he is greatly feared for his power and thus lives a life of solitude as Prince of All Saiyans. As far as he knows he's King Vegeta's blood child.
-War comes to the Saiyans as King Vegeta rebels against Freiza when Broly comes of age.
-During the war Bardock scores numerous victories against Freiza's forces and is elevated to the Elite Class by King Vegeta after he kills Zarbon and Dodoria though at the cost of his team. Unknown to King Vegeta, Bardock had unlocked the Super Saiyan state and secretly trains Raditz.
-Raditz, now an Elite thanks to his father, meets Broly and despite their vast differences in power he challenges Broly to a fight but is easily defeated. Despite this he challenges Broly whenever he can thus eventually forming a kinship between them.
-Freiza is enraged at his losses which is only magnified by Cooler's taunting. Thus Freiza takes the field himself but is killed by Broly before he can even transform.
-King Cold is enraged at the death of Freiza and leads his armies himself to exterminate the Saiyans for their impudence.
-King Vegeta grows desperate and secretly allies with Cooler, who desires to replace his father, and they lead an assassination attempt against King Cold.
-King Cold nearly defeats them, despite Cooler's betrayal, but Broly temporarily unlocks the Legendary Super Saiyan state when Raditz, his only friend, is beaten severely by King Cold.
-Broly easily defeats King Cold but it is Cooler who lands the killing blow. Afterward Broly secluded himself out of fear of his constantly growing power.
-After the war a fragile peace is formed between Cooler and King Vegeta. Elsewhere Bardock learns, from a rebel Saiyan Doctor, the truth of his son's death and that Broly is really the child of Paragus.
-An enraged Bardock, now beloved by the Saiyan people, rebels against King Vegeta which engulfs the Saiyan race into a massive Civil War. Cooler bids his time.
-Broly learns the truth from Raditz, whom Bardock trusted with due to his kinship with Broly, and confronts his father who doesn't deny anything as he figured Broly still sees him as a father.
-Despite his rage Broly refuses to kill King Vegeta and defects to Bardock's side which greatly turns the tides in Bardock's favor as Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan state caused the people to worship him as if he were a God.
-King Vegeta requests aid from Cooler whom arrives in great force, however it is all just for show as Cooler had secretly Allied with Bardock even before Broly defected.
-With Cooler's aid Bardock storms the palace and has King Vegeta imprisoned. However, instead of taking the throne himself he convinces Broly to ascend the throne as many still saw Bardock as a traitor and none but a few know the truth of Broly's origins.
-Broly reluctantly becomes King of The Saiyans on the condition that Raditz is made his second. Cooler attends the coronation before leaving to his own plots. Occasionally he returns to challenge Broly into battle in preparation for an undisclosed event only known to himself.
-As King, Broly is convinced that he needs to take on a wife but his people revered him as some type of prophecized godlike Legend and thus none dared to petition themselves or their daughters before him.
-One day Broly and Raditz encountered a very studious Saiyan woman who completely disregarded Broly's presence as she only cared for her research. This infuriated Raditz but intrigued Broly whom visited her whenever he could. Eventually the Saiyan Woman gave her name, Karoly, and the two began to see each other on more friendly terms.
-Though Karoly was considered an extremely competent fighter she vastly preferred indulging in her own research instead of martial pursuits. However, she eventually agreed to train with Broly, his excuse to spend time with her, and her presence was a great help in Broly mastering the Legendary Super Saiyan state without losing control. Broly soon realizes that he cannot get enough of Karoly and feels pangs of emptiness when they seperate after their training sessions.
-Eventually with Broly's support and influence Karoly's research is finally critiqued and accepted by her fellow intellectuals thus leading to a technological revolution. Afterward Karoly begins to become more affectionate towards Broly after Karoly convinces Raditz to have Gine visit her for relationship advice after Karoly begins to feel strangely around Broly.
-Broly attempts to propose to Karoly only for Karoly to propose first as in her mind it only made sense that they wed as neither could be without the other any longer.
-Upon their wedding day, whom Cooler attends, strange visitors arrive and invite them to a multi-universal tournament. Cooler isn't surprised at all, as if he knew of the coming invitation.
-Bardock agrees to act as Regent so that Broly and Raditz can attend alongside Cooler. Karoly, interested in the strange alien's technology, accompanies them as well as does Gine who desires to support her son Raditz.
Fighters - Broly [Base, Super Saiyan, Legendary Super Saiyan], Cooler [Base, Augmented Form, Ascension Form], Karoly [Base, Super Saiyan] and Raditz [Base, Super Saiyan].
Spectators - Gine [Base].
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Post by kinnikuman on Sept 29, 2016 17:25:45 GMT
Universe ? Broly - King of All Saiyans -Vegeta dies at childbirth due to complications, taking his mother with him. -King Vegeta takes many lovers but refuses to remarry. -Word reaches King Vegeta that a child, Broly, is born with an incredible power level. -King Vegeta has Paragus killed in secret as well as Kakorotto, whom is the unlucky child found next to Broly, as the public knows that Paragus had a child so he needed a scorched body. -Bardock is informed that his child died and the body is lost. Knowing his child's weak power level he doesn't investigate further, Gine is saddened and pushes Bardock to be a better father towards Raditz. -Eventually King Vegeta has Broly revealed as his blood heir to his people and claims that Broly is destined for greatness. King Vegeta has his favored Concubine made into his wife on the grounds that she claims that Broly is her child after months of absence to fake a pregnancy. -Broly never goes insane, though he is greatly feared for his power and thus lives a life of solitude as Prince of All Saiyans. As far as he knows he's King Vegeta's blood child. -War comes to the Saiyans as King Vegeta rebels against Freiza when Broly comes of age. -During the war Bardock scores numerous victories against Freiza's forces and is elevated to the Elite Class by King Vegeta after he kills Zarbon and Dodoria though at the cost of his team. Unknown to King Vegeta, Bardock had unlocked the Super Saiyan state and secretly trains Raditz. -Raditz, now an Elite thanks to his father, meets Broly and despite their vast differences in power he challenges Broly to a fight but is easily defeated. Despite this he challenges Broly whenever he can thus eventually forming a kinship between them. -Freiza is enraged at his losses which is only magnified by Cooler's taunting. Thus Freiza takes the field himself but is killed by Broly before he can even transform. -King Cold is enraged at the death of Freiza and leads his armies himself to exterminate the Saiyans for their impudence. -King Vegeta grows desperate and secretly allies with Cooler, who desires to replace his father, and they lead an assassination attempt against King Cold. -King Cold nearly defeats them, despite Cooler's betrayal, but Broly temporarily unlocks the Legendary Super Saiyan state when Raditz, his only friend, is beaten severely by King Cold. -Broly easily defeats King Cold but it is Cooler who lands the killing blow. Afterward Broly secluded himself out of fear of his constantly growing power. -After the war a fragile peace is formed between Cooler and King Vegeta. Elsewhere Bardock learns, from a rebel Saiyan Doctor, the truth of his son's death and that Broly is really the child of Paragus. -An enraged Bardock, now beloved by the Saiyan people, rebels against King Vegeta which engulfs the Saiyan race into a massive Civil War. Cooler bids his time. -Broly learns the truth from Raditz, whom Bardock trusted with due to his kinship with Broly, and confronts his father who doesn't deny anything as he figured Broly still sees him as a father. -Despite his rage Broly refuses to kill King Vegeta and defects to Bardock's side which greatly turns the tides in Bardock's favor as Broly's Legendary Super Saiyan state caused the people to worship him as if he were a God. -King Vegeta requests aid from Cooler whom arrives in great force, however it is all just for show as Cooler had secretly Allied with Bardock even before Broly defected. -With Cooler's aid Bardock storms the palace and has King Vegeta imprisoned. However, instead of taking the throne himself he convinces Broly to ascend the throne as many still saw Bardock as a traitor and none but a few know the truth of Broly's origins. -Broly reluctantly becomes King of The Saiyans on the condition that Raditz is made his second. Cooler attends the coronation before leaving to his own plots. Occasionally he returns to challenge Broly into battle in preparation for an undisclosed event only known to himself. -As King, Broly is convinced that he needs to take on a wife but his people revered him as some type of prophecized godlike Legend and thus none dared to petition themselves or their daughters before him. -One day Broly and Raditz encountered a very studious Saiyan woman who completely disregarded Broly's presence as she only cared for her research. This infuriated Raditz but intrigued Broly whom visited her whenever he could. Eventually the Saiyan Woman gave her name, Karoly, and the two began to see each other on more friendly terms. -Though Karoly was considered an extremely competent fighter she vastly preferred indulging in her own research instead of martial pursuits. However, she eventually agreed to train with Broly, his excuse to spend time with her, and her presence was a great help in Broly mastering the Legendary Super Saiyan state without losing control. Broly soon realizes that he cannot get enough of Karoly and feels pangs of emptiness when they seperate after their training sessions. -Eventually with Broly's support and influence Karoly's research is finally critiqued and accepted by her fellow intellectuals thus leading to a technological revolution. Afterward Karoly begins to become more affectionate towards Broly after Karoly convinces Raditz to have Gine visit her for relationship advice after Karoly begins to feel strangely around Broly. -Broly attempts to propose to Karoly only for Karoly to propose first as in her mind it only made sense that they wed as neither could be without the other any longer. -Upon their wedding day, whom Cooler attends, strange visitors arrive and invite them to a multi-universal tournament. Cooler isn't surprised at all, as if he knew of the coming invitation. -Bardock agrees to act as Regent so that Broly and Raditz can attend alongside Cooler. Karoly, interested in the strange alien's technology, accompanies them as well as does Gine who desires to support her son Raditz. Fighters - Broly [Base, Super Saiyan, Legendary Super Saiyan], Cooler [Base, Augmented Form, Ascension Form], Karoly [Base, Super Saiyan] and Raditz [Base, Super Saiyan]. Spectators - Gine [Base]. I dlike this universe. In fact a lot of them have been fun. We need a multiverse 2 soon. Oh and I guess mine has separated enough to be it's own universe. Universe 9.1 Human/Black pants army No Goku, Story is really Gohan's and a lone wolf cub. RRA was never defeated. Adjunctant black made his wish, Red Ribbon army was reformed under Black pants army Piccolo used both armies to become a bigger threat. In the end Kami had to be sealed with Piccolo inside the rice cooker. Tarbles comes searching for the Senzu beans. Gohan dies. Tien, Mercenary Toa and Piccolo (Elder) go off to fight Tarbles. Wins but Tarbles escapes back into space. _Sayian saga Tarbles, Nappa, Veggeta, Radditz and Kakkarotto vs Toa, Launch, Yamcha, Wolf cub Goku, Krillin, and Tien. Yamcha and Launch 'die'. Sayians grab the senzu beans and escape into space. -Revival saga. Tien and Krillin attack Black pants army to recover Launch and Yamcha who somehow are alive again. However there power levels seem strange and artificial. -Yardat Saga. A little lost Tien, Krillin and Toa end up in a ship to Yardat. A mysterious rider also is hidden in the ship. -Cooler's Namekia. A slave empire where only a few Namekians are kings over the others. Tao betrays Krillin and Piccolo Jr emerges from a egg. Piccolo soon is absorbed by the terrorist Slug... but whoms mind is stronger. -Cooler's Arc. Sayian vs Cooler and the humans are right in the middle. Can krillin find the dragonballs before it's too late. -Armageddon. Cooler defeated and the Sayians all donning golden locks, Krillin pushes himself further. Is 'Avatar' form a legend -Android saga -Binary Saga -Grandpa Gohan saga -Babidi Saga -Dabura arc. Fighters in arc. Mercenary Toa, Lord Slug (It's a long story, but it's Piccolo in a new body) Tien, And android Launch.
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Post by GreatWyrmGold on Sept 30, 2016 15:03:17 GMT
Oh, I'd say for his potential... should take about 10 seconds. Hey, show the man some respect. He's the fifth-strongest (pure) human in the setting! If Videl taught him that qi stuff wasn't just a bunch of tricks, and Satan applied himself, he could probably be at least as strong as Krillin. ... Good point. Curious to see a universe where Goku and Gohan had succeeded in fusing with the portara earrings and they never defused. A fusion with Gohan's potential and magical enhancement, along with Goku's drive to improve himself, but puts protecting people over the love a battle. It would make for some interesting conversations with Vegetto, Pan, Goku, and Gohan. It might even give us some cool conversations with Cell and Majin Buu. That would be neat. I'm not sure what could be done with the universe, but I'm sure I could think of something. Especially if Vegeta didn't get brought back to life. Though for Gokhan's sake I sure hope he could convince Chi-Chi and Videl to fuse... Let's face it, Gokhan's in a pretty bad spot for romance. Everyone's either old enough to be his half-mother or young enough to be his half-daughter. A semi surrealistic universe where, for some reason, Mr Satan is as strong as he claimed to be. I'm sold. (The rest of the universe description sounds good, too.) I like the idea. I'd take it a different direction, but it sounds good overall.
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Post by majinjanemba on Sept 30, 2016 17:59:52 GMT
I would like a universe where the Kais somehow managed to destroy Buu and Babidi created a new demon that killed him and all the Z fighters. Who would this new demon be? Why none other than the one and only Super Janemba, who would terrorize the universe with no one to control or stop him.
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Post by Super Saiyan God Vegeto on Oct 2, 2016 10:54:47 GMT
I would add a universe where Turles used the Tree of Might to defeat everyone who stood in his way including Goku and Frieza, and who'd managed to unlock all three super saiyan forms.
I would add a universe where after instead of falling to Goku's Instant Transmission attack, Cooler put a shield around himself and successfully defended against Goku's blast and won the fight, and proceeded to train and unlock all of the Frost Demon augmentation forms becoming many times stronger than what his father is in the tournament now.
I would add a universe where future Gohan never lost his arm and he along with Trunks go into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to improve enough to defeat a perfect Cell who had managed to absorb the future androids. They keep improving after defeating Cell.
I would add a Universe where Goku is wished back after the Cell games and continues to train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and unlocks super saiyan 3, where Gohan also doesn't stop training, and everyone else is obsessed with getting stronger and training as well, including all of the Z Fighters: Piccolo, Dende, the humans, Goten, Trunks, Vegeta, Bra, and Pan. Goku still wishes for Buu too reborn as Uub when he is easily defeated, and he is much stronger than his Universe 18 counterpart and already knows magic.
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Post by shenron1985 on Oct 2, 2016 11:48:25 GMT
A Universe where Frieza never destroy planet Vegeta.
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Post by neverme on Oct 3, 2016 6:52:31 GMT
Here's an idea that barrows from a few of you fellas. How about instead of Gohan being kidnapped by Radditz and becoming a badarse fighter, you could make it Garlic Jr.? Garlic Jr. was the one who originally saw potential in Gohan in the first film (dead zone) and kidnapped him, why not have him succeed defeating goku and piccolo, and train Gohan? Gohan could slightly alter Garlic jr. too, the way he did piccolo, but to a far lesser extent. Garlic jr would become the corrupt guardian of earth, but not necessaily slaughter everyone like Cell or Bojack, rather rule similarly to King Piccolo with fear. Gohan and Garlick's minions would replace the Z-warriors in taking on the interplanetary threats that came their way like the saiyans and frieza.
Maybe have Gohan regretting and trying to find a way to seal Garlic jr away but can't because of his immortality, hence motivation for the tournament? Or does that sound waaaay too out of character?
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 4, 2016 0:15:10 GMT
Here's an idea that barrows from a few of you fellas. How about instead of Gohan being kidnapped by Radditz and becoming a badarse fighter, you could make it Garlic Jr.? Garlic Jr. was the one who originally saw potential in Gohan in the first film (dead zone) and kidnapped him, why not have him succeed defeating goku and piccolo, and train Gohan? Gohan could slightly alter Garlic jr. too, the way he did piccolo, but to a far lesser extent. Garlic jr would become the corrupt guardian of earth, but not necessaily slaughter everyone like Cell or Bojack, rather rule similarly to King Piccolo with fear. Gohan and Garlick's minions would replace the Z-warriors in taking on the interplanetary threats that came their way like the saiyans and frieza. Maybe have Gohan regretting and trying to find a way to seal Garlic jr away but can't because of his immortality, hence motivation for the tournament? Or does that sound waaaay too out of character? I really could see this, but what if instead of a evil Garlic make him have a reason for his actions. (AKA seeing that humans are evil and need a heavy thumb to help them protect themselves.)
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 4, 2016 0:26:51 GMT
I'd add a universe where Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta showed up, killed Goku and the Z Warriors except for Gohan who is then brainwashed into joining them as they decide to stay on earth and breed with the humans to create a stronger generation of Saiyans in hope of killing Frieza.
The story would revolve around Gohan, an Elite Soldier tasked with being prince Vegeta III's bodyguard who is technically a somewhat evil Trunks as Vegeta still mated with Bulma.
Their wish would probably be to take away Frieza's immortality which he got from the now extinct nameks.
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 4, 2016 0:33:23 GMT
I'd add a universe where Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta showed up, killed Goku and the Z Warriors except for Gohan who is then brainwashed into joining them as they decide to stay on earth and breed with the humans to create a stronger generation of Saiyans in hope of killing Frieza. The story would revolve around Gohan, an Elite Soldier tasked with being prince Vegeta III's bodyguard who is technically a somewhat evil Trunks as Vegeta still mated with Bulma. Their wish would probably be to take away Frieza's immortality which he got from the now extinct nameks. Also have Dr. Gero build androids 16-19 to help him rebuild the red ribbon army as a resistance against the Saiyans.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 4, 2016 4:24:54 GMT
I'd add a universe where Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta showed up, killed Goku and the Z Warriors except for Gohan who is then brainwashed into joining them as they decide to stay on earth and breed with the humans to create a stronger generation of Saiyans in hope of killing Frieza. The story would revolve around Gohan, an Elite Soldier tasked with being prince Vegeta III's bodyguard who is technically a somewhat evil Trunks as Vegeta still mated with Bulma. Their wish would probably be to take away Frieza's immortality which he got from the now extinct nameks. Also have Dr. Gero build androids 16-19 to help him rebuild the red ribbon army as a resistance against the Saiyans. Dr. Gero the Hero. Gohan the villain, I am starting to like this idea. Why stop at 19 though. Android 20 should be Cybernetic organism codnamed G.O.K.U
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Post by Son Pan on Oct 4, 2016 4:55:01 GMT
Here's an idea that barrows from a few of you fellas. How about instead of Gohan being kidnapped by Radditz and becoming a badarse fighter, you could make it Garlic Jr.? Garlic Jr. was the one who originally saw potential in Gohan in the first film (dead zone) and kidnapped him, why not have him succeed defeating goku and piccolo, and train Gohan? Gohan could slightly alter Garlic jr. too, the way he did piccolo, but to a far lesser extent. Garlic jr would become the corrupt guardian of earth, but not necessaily slaughter everyone like Cell or Bojack, rather rule similarly to King Piccolo with fear. Gohan and Garlick's minions would replace the Z-warriors in taking on the interplanetary threats that came their way like the saiyans and frieza. Maybe have Gohan regretting and trying to find a way to seal Garlic jr away but can't because of his immortality, hence motivation for the tournament? Or does that sound waaaay too out of character? I really could see this, but what if instead of a evil Garlic make him have a reason for his actions. (AKA seeing that humans are evil and need a heavy thumb to help them protect themselves.) This sounds like it would be a neat universe actually. I do wonder even if Garlic did become immortal wouldn't Gohan still surpass him with his monster potential? He couldn't kill Garlic Jr., but I have to think he can be beat him shitless and overthrow him. I'd add a universe where Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta showed up, killed Goku and the Z Warriors except for Gohan who is then brainwashed into joining them as they decide to stay on earth and breed with the humans to create a stronger generation of Saiyans in hope of killing Frieza. The story would revolve around Gohan, an Elite Soldier tasked with being prince Vegeta III's bodyguard who is technically a somewhat evil Trunks as Vegeta still mated with Bulma. Their wish would probably be to take away Frieza's immortality which he got from the now extinct nameks. I like the idea of a Saiyan dominated Earth with Vegeta trying to create hybrids to overthrow Freeza. Do you think they would find out about the Dragon Balls? Raditz only learned about them because Piccolo told him about it to gloat. I can't imagine they would find out about them if they all came to Earth since they would probably just slaughter everyone. In this scenario Namek would be safe since I can't see Vegeta or Freeza ever learning about the Dragon Balls.
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 4, 2016 9:16:55 GMT
I really could see this, but what if instead of a evil Garlic make him have a reason for his actions. (AKA seeing that humans are evil and need a heavy thumb to help them protect themselves.) This sounds like it would be a neat universe actually. I do wonder even if Garlic did become immortal wouldn't Gohan still surpass him with his monster potential? He couldn't kill Garlic Jr., but I have to think he can be beat him shitless and overthrow him. I'd add a universe where Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta showed up, killed Goku and the Z Warriors except for Gohan who is then brainwashed into joining them as they decide to stay on earth and breed with the humans to create a stronger generation of Saiyans in hope of killing Frieza. The story would revolve around Gohan, an Elite Soldier tasked with being prince Vegeta III's bodyguard who is technically a somewhat evil Trunks as Vegeta still mated with Bulma. Their wish would probably be to take away Frieza's immortality which he got from the now extinct nameks. I like the idea of a Saiyan dominated Earth with Vegeta trying to create hybrids to overthrow Freeza. Do you think they would find out about the Dragon Balls? Raditz only learned about them because Piccolo told him about it to gloat. I can't imagine they would find out about them if they all came to Earth since they would probably just slaughter everyone. In this scenario Namek would be safe since I can't see Vegeta or Freeza ever learning about the Dragon Balls. Here's how I see it Vegeta and co get screwed dragonball wise buuuut Frieza wins by torturing everything they need, guru's connection to the dragonballs, the passphrase and a complete namekian translation out of Nail and a rando village chief. Keeping guru on life support so Frieza can keep using the dragonballs as many times as he likes. That will be Gohan and Vegeta III's wish in the tourny is to even the playing field with Frieza. Plus I see it as a reverse history of trunks where the androids are the good guys and the main characters are the bad guys. Also I see all three saiyans arriving at the same time Vegeta and Nappa arrived. Chiatsou will die the same but will do less damage. Yamcha will take a double sundae to the face. Tien wil get slammed into the ground and have his head crushed by Nappa's foot. Krillen will do the same amount of damage to Nappa with d-disk and piccolo will die the same. Krillen will be caught and crushed by nappa. Goku arrives and tries to save gohan but they use him to get goku to surrender but the second he tries to refuse joining them Vegeta wastes no time killing him. Yajarobe will get caught and eaten by the three.
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Post by Son Pan on Oct 4, 2016 9:27:13 GMT
So are the Saiyans still on Earth or are they hiding from Freeza? I like your idea, but if Freeza has all that power I don't see why Earth would still be around, especially if Vegeta openly revolted against Freeza and is building on army on Earth to fight him.
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