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Post by christhesaiyan on May 23, 2017 15:52:12 GMT
I'm kind of curious about how exactly a DBS character becomes a God of Destruction. The obvious part is that they must be close to God level in power, since Goku and Vegeta are the only candidates for the job right now. But I'm more-so curious about how exactly one is turned into a God of Destruction. From what we can currently tell a mortal with a high power level is selected, trained by an Angel, then acquires godly ki, probably during training, then they're somehow made ageless (my guess is that it's done via the Super Dragon Balls since it's probably rare for a new God of Destruction to be appointed anyway) and taught the "Destroy" technique (it seems pretty multiversal with Gods of Destruction since at least three of them have been seen doing it). I kind of like how they can be appointed to universes they don't originate from (Beerus and Champa being from the same universe yet ruling different ones for instance).
I think DBS is sort of leaving hints about this scattered throughout the series. Really hope they detail the process in a Beerus origin story or something. Considering a Beerus race member is already in the tournament I'm sure his origins will come up sooner or later.
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Post by Axalon on May 23, 2017 19:20:48 GMT
(my guess is that it's done via the Super Dragon Balls since it's probably rare for a new God of Destruction to be appointed anyway) and taught the "Destroy" technique (it seems pretty multiversal with Gods of Destruction since at least three of them have been seen doing it). I kind of like how they can be appointed to universes they don't originate from (Beerus and Champa being from the same universe yet ruling different ones for instance). Beerus was completely unaware of the Super DBs until Champa brought up that he was collecting them, so I don't think using the Super DBs is standard practice when making a God of Destruction. It's likely something to do with Zen-Oh or the Grand Priest since Zen-Oh joked about replacing Beerus and Champa in the tournament with new GoDs. That said, since the Suepr DBs are supposedly capable of granting ANY wish it might be a second way to do so. |
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Post by christhesaiyan on May 23, 2017 20:43:13 GMT
(my guess is that it's done via the Super Dragon Balls since it's probably rare for a new God of Destruction to be appointed anyway) and taught the "Destroy" technique (it seems pretty multiversal with Gods of Destruction since at least three of them have been seen doing it). I kind of like how they can be appointed to universes they don't originate from (Beerus and Champa being from the same universe yet ruling different ones for instance). Beerus was completely unaware of the Super DBs until Champa brought up that he was collecting them, so I don't think using the Super DBs is standard practice when making a God of Destruction. It's likely something to do with Zen-Oh or the Grand Priest since Zen-Oh joked about replacing Beerus and Champa in the tournament with new GoDs. That said, since the Suepr DBs are supposedly capable of granting ANY wish it might be a second way to do so. Yeah they never went into how exactly the conversion from mortal to god works, so it might all be done with one technique (imbuing them with God Ki and making them ageless in the process). |
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Post by Son Pan on May 23, 2017 21:22:49 GMT
Beerus offered Goku the job and Whis I think wanted Vegeta to become one in exchange for training him. It could be possible that God of Destruction can choose their successor. Maybe Beerus was selected the same way.
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Post by Xeno Black on May 24, 2017 1:20:46 GMT
Perhaps Zeno 'appoints' a chosen mortal for the position and have a angel train them, or Zeno can "give" said mortal the power of a god and have a angel train them for control reasons. Then again Zeno seems like the person to not go even this far, so who knows how the actual process works.
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Post by christhesaiyan on May 24, 2017 3:58:15 GMT
Perhaps Zeno 'appoints' a chosen moral for the position and have a angel train them, or Zeno can "give" said mortal the power of a god and have a angel train them for control reasons. Then again Zeno seems like the person to not go even this far, so who knows how the actual process works. Well if the Super Dragon Balls aren't involved I imagine the Grand Priest is, he's if nothing else close to omnipotent himself and could probably turn someone into a God of Destruction if needed. Then again it could be the angel trainer's job, I mean they're capable of a lot of stuff too. Maybe the life link with a Supreme Kai is a clue here. If their job is to give life, then maybe they're capable of endowing mortals with God ki, which is what causes the life link in the first place. |
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Post by Axalon on May 24, 2017 4:52:28 GMT
Perhaps Zeno 'appoints' a chosen moral for the position and have a angel train them, or Zeno can "give" said mortal the power of a god and have a angel train them for control reasons. Then again Zeno seems like the person to not go even this far, so who knows how the actual process works. Well if the Super Dragon Balls aren't involved I imagine the Grand Priest is, he's if nothing else close to omnipotent himself and could probably turn someone into a God of Destruction if needed. Then again it could be the angel trainer's job, I mean they're capable of a lot of stuff too. Maybe the life link with a Supreme Kai is a clue here. If their job is to give life, then maybe they're capable of endowing mortals with God ki, which is what causes the life link in the first place. If this theory is true then Supreme Kai dun goofed when he enlisted Goku, Vegeta and Gohan to stop Buu from being awakened. He dun goofed HARD. SSG Goku would've wrecked everyone including Buu with one finger. |
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Post by christhesaiyan on May 24, 2017 17:26:48 GMT
Well if the Super Dragon Balls aren't involved I imagine the Grand Priest is, he's if nothing else close to omnipotent himself and could probably turn someone into a God of Destruction if needed. Then again it could be the angel trainer's job, I mean they're capable of a lot of stuff too. Maybe the life link with a Supreme Kai is a clue here. If their job is to give life, then maybe they're capable of endowing mortals with God ki, which is what causes the life link in the first place. If this theory is true then Supreme Kai dun goofed when he enlisted Goku, Vegeta and Gohan to stop Buu from being awakened. He dun goofed HARD. SSG Goku would've wrecked everyone including Buu with one finger. Well my best guess is that it's a one-time thing for each Supreme Kai. I mean if a new God of Destruction needs to be appointed odds are the Supreme Kai is gone too due to the life link. So he couldn't endow anyone else with God ki because he was already life linked to Beerus. It would certainly explain a lot. |
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Post by Axalon on May 25, 2017 0:37:51 GMT
If this theory is true then Supreme Kai dun goofed when he enlisted Goku, Vegeta and Gohan to stop Buu from being awakened. He dun goofed HARD. SSG Goku would've wrecked everyone including Buu with one finger. Well my best guess is that it's a one-time thing for each Supreme Kai. I mean if a new God of Destruction needs to be appointed odds are the Supreme Kai is gone too due to the life link. So he couldn't endow anyone else with God ki because he was already life linked to Beerus. It would certainly explain a lot. Problem with this though is that Beerus was around way back when to seal the Elder Kai into the Z Sword. |
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Post by Conqueror Geng on May 25, 2017 0:54:31 GMT
Well my best guess is that it's a one-time thing for each Supreme Kai. I mean if a new God of Destruction needs to be appointed odds are the Supreme Kai is gone too due to the life link. So he couldn't endow anyone else with God ki because he was already life linked to Beerus. It would certainly explain a lot. Problem with this though is that Beerus was around way back when to seal the Elder Kai into the Z Sword. And Elder Kai was said to have been 15 generations before Shin. |
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Post by christhesaiyan on May 25, 2017 1:06:18 GMT
Well my best guess is that it's a one-time thing for each Supreme Kai. I mean if a new God of Destruction needs to be appointed odds are the Supreme Kai is gone too due to the life link. So he couldn't endow anyone else with God ki because he was already life linked to Beerus. It would certainly explain a lot. Problem with this though is that Beerus was around way back when to seal the Elder Kai into the Z Sword. How is that a problem? All that would mean was that the life link is passed down from Supreme Kai to Supreme Kai. |
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Post by Son Pan on May 25, 2017 3:26:17 GMT
The Super manga might help us understand this better. Even though Zamasu killed all the other gods he himself is not an official Supreme Kai and is still restricted in some ways the other Supreme Kai are not. He is still bond to the one hour time limit of the potara earrings just like any non Supreme Kai. Trunks needed to go through an official ritual just to be an official apprentice to Supreme Kai, which automatically gifted him healing abilities. Going with that idea it is likely the Supreme Kai and Gods of Destruction have their own rituals to fully appoint another into their positions, gaining whatever special abilities and traits those gods have.
It is a good chance that when Beerus is ready to retire he or Whis will pick a potential successor, have him undergo trials or training, then when they are satisfied have that person undergo some sort of ritual that will officially transfer the god of destruction power/title to them, and linking their life to the Supreme Kai of their universe.
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Post by Axalon on May 25, 2017 10:16:45 GMT
Problem with this though is that Beerus was around way back when to seal the Elder Kai into the Z Sword. How is that a problem? All that would mean was that the life link is passed down from Supreme Kai to Supreme Kai. As Conqueror Geng said, the Elder Kai was 15 generations before the Supreme Kai was a thing. Which means that the current Supreme Kai can't have used this theoretical ability to make Beerus a GoD because Beerus was already the GoD. Switching to a new lifelink is a different matter from actually bestowing god ki upon someone. |
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Post by christhesaiyan on May 25, 2017 16:20:23 GMT
How is that a problem? All that would mean was that the life link is passed down from Supreme Kai to Supreme Kai. As Conqueror Geng said, the Elder Kai was 15 generations before the Supreme Kai was a thing. Which means that the current Supreme Kai can't have used this theoretical ability to make Beerus a GoD because Beerus was already the GoD. Switching to a new lifelink is a different matter from actually bestowing god ki upon someone. Right but what I'm saying is that Elder Kai or whoever was the Supreme Kai when Beerus was about to become a GoD could have performed a ritual to make Beerus into a GoD, which also life linked them for as long as he was the current Supreme Kai. Therefore, anyone who takes up the position of Supreme Kai (at least the "head" Supreme Kai that's in charge of creating new life) would become life linked to Beerus. And the ritual to actually make him into a GoD is performed by that Supreme Kai, which creates the life link that's passed down from each Supreme Kai to the next. So the ritual would cause the life link, but not tie it to a specific Supreme Kai. Honestly we're talking about a realm of DBS logic that's barely been explored at all, so we can make very little sense of it for the moment. |
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