Character with most potential?

Zeno would have the most potential since he's the strongest being in the multiverse. I don't know how he obtained his power and he probably didn't have to work that much for it but technically no one could claim they have more potential unless they eventually surpass him. Not including Zeno, Grand Priest, and his children, I think the characters with the most potential are Uub, Gohan, and Super Buu. Originally, we assumed Uub's potential was Kid Buu's power but it wouldn't make sense for Goku to get excited against someone that much weaker than him so maybe they'll use Kid Buu's potential as a starting point and have Uub get a trillion times stronger. Gohan because they always talk about his potential. If Goku and Vegeta are two of the most powerful mortals in the multiverse, Gohan and Uub could end up being the two most powerful mortals of all and the closest mortals to a God of Destruction. Super Buu because he could continue absorbing people but it depends if there's a limit to how many people he could absorb.

If Cell has the same potential as Frieza thanks to DBS, then I'd say Cell if he trained.

Frieza went from being weaker than a fresh SS1 Goku to stronger than Buu-saga Vegito and SSB Goku. IN FOUR MONTHS. He gained enough power to give Beerus an entertaining fight at the very least, given that he woke up specifically just to see SSG, which has since been eclipsed in power. Imagine if he had a solid year of training. Or ten. If Cell proportionally gained as much strength as Frieza does from training then Platinum Super Perfect Cell would be quite the monster.

True, he's also made of people like Vegeta--who very quickly went from SS2 power (stronger than SS3 Goku when he was extremely pissed off) to SSB power in what, six months? Without a silly god ritual even!

But he has the potential to do so, no? If he didn't he never would've gotten there even with Whis, and that's what we're talking about right? Potential.

The point though is that Cell is comprised of individuals who all radically increase their power in hilariously short amounts of time, due to the fact that they all have great potential.

I see no reason why Cell likewise wouldn't have the shared potential of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Frieza and King Cold when he's taken so many other aspects from them as well, and genetically is literally made up of the same DNA that they possess. You keep saying "Well he's not just Frieza!" and "He's not just Vegeta!" and you're right. Because he's made from ALL OF THEM. That is why Cell was so lethal a construct. He was everything strong about the heroes and their greatest enemies turned against them, while eliminating as many weaknesses as possible.

I'm willing to let this point go, because I honestly don't understand how Vegeta even got the form. Half the time under Whis they were flailing around in weighted fatsuits or doing a lot of push-ups or changing Beerus' pillow mid-nap in a maid outfit or something when they weren't getting whacked upside the head while Whis drew symbols on them with a marker. If that's all his training consists of then it's laughable that they never attained it earlier.

Perhaps it has something to do with where they're fighting, Beerus' home, as opposed to how they're training.


Good thing he's part Frieza then huh, who has regular ki capable of reaching and even surpassing the godly ki of SSB Goku/Vegeta by beating up someone on Zarbon's level for four months.


Compared to Frieza, yes, they have less potential. But Cold aside they all have great potential, and he's made of all of them.


Yes. We know.


What do fractions have to do with it? He's only 1/5th Frieza sure, but his power is easily hundreds of times stronger than Frieza, and was individually stronger than every other fighter besides SS2 Gohan during his day. So why would he only be a "smidgen" higher than Golden Frieza when he's proportionally vastly stronger as it is without a single day of training? There's nothing suggesting that he's being held back by anyone's DNA, since he takes the best qualities of his genetic donors and uses them as one being. Why wouldn't Frieza's potential be part of that?

Hmmm, it could possibly be Beerus's planet, but they were trained by Whis.

Cool, that was my point all along.

But, their potential is so little in comparison to Freeza's that I'm struggling to find a way to justify how theirs even matters in comparison. Also, why are you leaving Cold out in the rain. By Toriyama's own word all of Freeza's family is amazing, it's just that Freeza's in an entirely different league in comparison.

Because, Cell might have had a higher starting point, but he has less potential than Freeza himself, or he has slightly more. It's like Gohan and well anyone in Dragon Ball, repeatedly he was stated to have the most potential out of everyone, even in the face of people like Cell and Buu. Heck, even if he's not being held back by everyone elses DNA why does it even matter?

Everyone's potential in comparison is hilariously small in comparison to Freeza's it's like adding multiple drips into an ocean of potential, neat you have all this extra potential. Sucks that they all suck in comparison to just one of these potentials.

It took Goku and Vegeta over ten years to get were they are currently. And even then they only ever got their because of stuff like the Time Chamber, Super Saiyan, Sparring Partners, and hard work and dedication. And even then Goku capped out around Kid Buu level, and Vegeta would capped out around SS2 Gohan level. Freeza on the other hand with his newbie gains far surpassed the both of their hard work and effort in four months.

Freeza does not simply out shadow everyone, the differences between their potentials is like comparing a candle to a sun. And even then why would Cell be inclined to train, he truly believes that he is the perfect being, and only wants to go around killing everyone.

Eh, all of Freeza's family is disappointing, Coola especially. Their all clones of Freeza, but with all the good bits snipped off.

Alright then, Cell isn't Goku, Cell isn't Vegeta. Cell's only interest is to go around killing everything, and just fighting everything. He has never shown any interest in actually training. And even then Goku and Vegeta were only capable of surpassing their limits because of time, effort, outside help, and SSJ.

The reason why their potentials just simply do not matter in comparison to Freeza's is that Freeza's is an ocean compared to their drips. It simply does not add anything substantial potential wise, heck their potential would be unnoticeable in comparison.


Lets say that with four months of training Freeza added like 7000 compared to his one. So Freeza is 7001, Cell with his much higher starting point would start off at lets say 80. Because he's 80 times stronger than Freeza.

Now add 7000 and he has a whopping power of 7080. Of course the numbers are no where near the power up they would get but it's only there to show off what the differences between their strengths would be like. Adding Goku, Vegeta, and King Cold to this number wont change it in the slightest, maybe 7080.1 or something. And that gap would slowly decrease as they both train, and reach the full potential of their might.

I also fail to see how Cell is an improved version of the original when it comes to potential as he was only made up of the greatest warriors in the galaxy. And what made him deadly was that he was all of them, their power, their techniques, their abilities all rolled up into one incredibly intelligent being.

Vegeta was hitting SS3 levels as a SS2 prior to getting godly ki. It's a safe bet he could've kept going and not stopped. Not sure why you're comparing him to Gohan.


Neither did Frieza. But we aren't talking about actions or intentions. Simply potential.



Why would Cell's hypothetical potential be only 7000? Just because Frieza's was there? I've been arguing that Cell would have a proportional increase in strength if his potential for gaining strength was the same as Frieza's, not that the two have the exact same potential and stop at the same place.



This is exactly what I've been saying. So a Frieza who knows a lot more techniques and can regenerate from a single cell and grow stronger from it isn't an improved version? He's more than just adding up a bunch of PLs and declaring himself Cell, he's an improved version of his progenitors. If everything else is better, why is his potential limited to what they were at? Why can't someone with Frieza potentials with the ability to zenkai and get even stronger not be considered a "Perfect" version?

Vegeta only ever got their through rage boosts. And even then it goes against what Akira Toriyama stated about them reaching the peak of their powers. Of course you can just hand wave it away by saying that Vegeta simply managed to tap into the power of SSJ3 and beyond. Of course that is pure head canon, so he just got a rage boost.

It wasn't a hypothetical full boost in potential. I was arguing that with the same gains Cell achieves, the level of power he has over Freeza becomes meaningless the stronger both of them become. Eventually the two of them would essentially become equals in strength. You've misunderstood me here, and I apologize that I did not make myself clear enough.

Of course, he's better in that regard. But I'm arguing about raw power here. And heck nothing is improved from his predecessors he's just all of them rolled into one. But, with raw power alone Cell isn't that much more powerful than Freeza.