GT Discussion Thread

Oh yeah another thing that pissed me off about GT: Piccolo's "redemption" really? Did he have to sacrifice himself to redeem himsself? NO!

And that's just ONE example of GT not understanding the characters it had to work with.

If you want others look at Uub, Vegeta, Trunks and Goten as for Goku most have argued he gained the mentality of his younger self but that's bad writing and a lazy excuse to say "we don't want him OP all the time just when we need him to be."

While i like GT i hated those things:

-GT = Goku Time - Goku is the only useful guy in this series
-Turning Goku into a kid - WTF Toy ani may shin?
-Pan and "Trunks" having a "facepalm" when Goku eats many food - um wasn't them the children of Vegeta and Gohan? Guys who also eat like pigs
-Ruining Pan's character - she was cute in Z, and has a good outfit by Toriyama, but Toei made her into a annoying b***, thank god GT isn't canon
-The Baby saga - Good idea, but a tsuful shouldn't be a villain, also Baby Vegeta!

Fixed

It's not my fault Toriyama is a pedobear

I encourage you not to ask Bartek such questions, unless you are ready for the truth.From a normal viewpoint, this may seem impossible, but I guess we are all different in some ways.

Edit: Ergh, while at it, I guess why not- GT!
I watched it as a kid, so it's a very biased opinion,but -
Pros.
1.Continuation of Z
2.Entirely new villains (whom were original and I liked them a lot to be honest)
3.Gohan's attire (I think it suits him, and those scholar clothes can lie a lot about his power)
4.Lots of new planets and characters overall during the first arc, expanding the universe(that thing should have been done way back in Z)
5.Lots of new techniques and "power isn't everything" abilities of the Shadow Dragons.
6.Despite Goku Time, most characters still got screen time.
7.All formerly defeated villains come back from Hell for revenge (albeit it's kinda pointless, as now the Z-fighters can wipe out anyone with ease)
8.SSJ4,SSJ4 Gogeta - that was an amazing addition for me, and Gogeta's power is what will always be truly godly, unlike Super.
And, oh boy, lets get down to the
Cons.
1.Goku turning into a kid(most people hate that, but without it the first arc wouldn't have the same vibe, so it's a 50-50 for me)
2.Pan-annoying as hell, but useful sometimes
3.No fusion-this could have worked out in some scenario at least, especially if it was indeed Goten and Trunks that went into space, and had to face an enemy stronger than each of them individually, and with Goku nowhere in sight.
4.Goku Time - while the Z-fighters remained strong (Gohan got powered down but he was still very strong), it was mainly Goku who was the powerhouse that saved the day, and at the last few episodes - Vegeta as well.Uub and Gohan should have been stronger than that, but that's how they wrote it.
5.Super 17 being there for too little - I think he should have been more of a thread, but he wasn't.
I could go on with both, but currently I can't remember other things.

I am super late in this thread, but I have watched GT in its entirety a few times and have a strong love / hate relationship with it. I love it because it actually continues the series post Uub saga (unlike Super which is a interquel / midquel) and has spawned great fanfiction from it (AF and EX Apocalypto come to mind). But its executions (making Goku a child all throughout) and sidelining all characters but Goku is what makes it weak compared to DB and DBZ. 

List of good things:

1 - Super Saiyan 4. A epic transformation that is different by its predecessors in not only in appearance, but in attainment as well. Plus it makes Goku into a adult again, thus making it even more delicious when utilized by the proud hero. Granted I am pleased that Vegeta (and by extension Gogeta) also attained this form, but I feel like that Gohan and Gotenks are perfect candidates for such a transformation too. Luckily it happens in AF and Heroes.

2 - Baby. Despite his pitiful name he truly was a great villain since he used the heroes power against them for the majority of the time. Plus him being Baby Vegeta was a cool concept who managed to outpower the vast majority of fighters until Goku ascended. It makes you wonder how far he could have went if he did became a Super Saiyan 4?

3 - Shadow Dragons. Making the dragon balls having a negative side effect is brilliant since it makes the most hax power in DB a tool that should never be abused. Dragons such as Naturon, Nuova, Eis, and especially Syn are great characters who offered incredible fight scenes to the series. But Omega Shenron was a beast who was feared as the strongest villain until Super happened. Still great though.

List of bad things:

1 - Crappy Ending. It was so bad that I thought that Z did better in how it ended everything. Personally a series such as Dragon Ball is impossible to end because so many things can be spun / or continued due to both the living world and afterlife having infinite potential. While the idea that Goku merged with Shenron was awesome, but skipping 100 years to the future felt cheap IMO.

2 - Super 17. Despite loving his character design and techniques, he shouldn't have been as strong as he was. Plus his saga was too short that felt like a cheap fusion reborn spin-off in a way. Needed a lot of work to make this saga fantastic (like the z-fighters actually doing some damage against Super 17 before Goku came).

3 - Next Generation. The likes of Uub, Pan, Marron, Bulla, Goku Jr, and Vegeta Jr never really did anything substantial minus a few things. Goku hogged all of their potential fame though at least Uub got some love.

That all I shall say about GT to give you guys a brief overview of what I think about this series as a whole.