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Post by Son Pan on Jul 15, 2022 23:37:46 GMT
I am tired of arguing. I am going to concede. Grand did nothing wrong and U4 Buu is right. Everyone is clearly wrong for not trusting Buu and should just do what he says.
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Post by Skarr on Jul 16, 2022 0:09:54 GMT
I am tired of arguing. I am going to concede. Grand did nothing wrong and U4 Buu is right. Everyone of pearly wrong for not trusting Buu and should just do what he says. I don't think I was implying that at all. I can still disagree with his decision but I was acknowledging why he acted differently than in similar situations he was in before.
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 16, 2022 19:19:26 GMT
I am tired of arguing. I am going to concede. Grand did nothing wrong and U4 Buu is right. Everyone of pearly wrong for not trusting Buu and should just do what he says. I don't think I was implying that at all. I can still disagree with his decision but I was acknowledging why he acted differently than in similar situations he was in before. Maybe I misunderstood your post. Reading them it felt like you were discounting Buu’s rampage and arguing it wasn’t a bad thing so Grand made the right decision. I just didn’t feel like arguing my point anymore and just conceded. I don’t know what else to say. I am really just disappointed with how U1 Grand Supreme Kai was written. Seeing him just standing there yesterday with a worried expression frustrated me. I don’t understand Salagir’s writing decisions for this character. I am less incline to give him the benefit of the doubt anymore when I personally felt he really botched U20 special or mishandled U16 Bra’s character in general. I have no faith there is more to Grand than what we have seen.
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Post by Skarr on Jul 17, 2022 12:31:13 GMT
Maybe I misunderstood your post. Reading them it felt like you were discounting Buu’s rampage and arguing it wasn’t a bad thing so Grand made the right decision. I just didn’t feel like arguing my point anymore and just conceded. It sounded like arguing he wouldn't do anything against Zen Buu was leaving out why he let him stay in the first place. He could be wrong for sparing Buu but he stated his reason for acting differently towards Buu compared to every other threat he faced before. If he felt Buu was evil, I think he would've been in that one panel with the other Kaioshin and maybe trying his ability he used against Buu in other universes. That would be under the same circumstances as the first time the Kaioshin fought Kid Buu and trying to sacrifice himself is his only option. To be honest I'm not sure if there's any big plan with the other Kaioshin since South was the only one who participated and stronger than the manga implied. I would've liked for him to fight during the MR but his contribution still would've been sacrificing himself with the other Kaioshin. I think his only "arc" is becoming friends with Zen Buu and sparing him which leads to him teaching Uub magic. I can understand if some people lost faith in the story. I'm not sure what they could do at that point because I think it comes down to where someone draws the line. I've had occasional criticism but there hasn't really been any story that I lost faith in and thought it was worth continuing.
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 17, 2022 18:32:19 GMT
I think we have to agree to disagree Skar on this. I truly feel Grand has become so impressed with Buu that I don’t think he would fight him. I understand why he is treating Buu differently I just felt his speech in the last main chapter that Grand has this idea of what Buu is and the imagine is so strong in his mind that he ignores idea that contradicts it. One of the arguments on why he helped Buu was even they couldn’t stop him even if they wanted to and implored everyone that they had to live with Buu’s decisions. That sounded like he resigned Buu is omnipotent and that he and the others shouldn’t even try to lift a finger against him and just accept they have to live what Buu’s decides. It is not really a strong image or reassures me that if Buu turned it evil again that he would put up a fight.
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