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Post by Android 13 on Oct 9, 2016 13:53:24 GMT
We really don't need more comments that stir up arguments and then just randomly disappear only to not partake in it ever again. If you would be so kind to provide evidence the next time you log into the forum so that we may all settle this debate, The thing is.. i went to sleep for 8 hours like a normal human should. I provided the link of the interview. Toriyama has said it no matter how you look at it. You have to see the manga as he wrote it. You are saying any human being sleeping for anything else than 8 hours is abnormal?Ok Freud, now post me here in this forum where Toriyama states in the manga that Goku is the coolest, strongest, #1 and so on.A silly writing on Daizenshuu's pages cannot convince me of anything.You say Toriyama has said it.Were you there when he said it?Have you recorded it?Do you have any evidence this is even an interview?All you keep babbling about is how Toriyama said this, Toriyama said that, no evidence whatsoever, as we have a word here in my country: Horse with covers, you just present a link with some writings and that is supposed to be an absolute fact that makes us all go: "Oh my God, how can I have been so dumb, of course Goku is stronger in his base form than Super Buu with Gohan absorbed, that he is the single most pure, most beautiful, cool character that has ever existed in all of fiction, and that no one is ever going to be as cool or as strong as him because he is maximum".Sounds a bit like:
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 16:12:55 GMT
The thing is.. i went to sleep for 8 hours like a normal human should. I provided the link of the interview. Toriyama has said it no matter how you look at it. You have to see the manga as he wrote it. We asked you to provide proof of Kid Buu being stronger and you linked Toriyama saying Goku is the coolest... It doesn't prove anything other than you don't even understand the argument like Toriyama barely understands his own work. I see why i don't take you seriously. I see why it takes FUCKING 4 of you just to have an argument with me. He said coolest and "Pure Strongest". If Goku is the strongest and Kid buu could fight him that already means Kid buu>Super Buu. Don't fight Toriyamas words. You will lose just like you have lost to me.
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 16:19:35 GMT
The thing is.. i went to sleep for 8 hours like a normal human should. I provided the link of the interview. Toriyama has said it no matter how you look at it. You have to see the manga as he wrote it. You are saying any human being sleeping for anything else than 8 hours is abnormal?Ok Freud, now post me here in this forum where Toriyama states in the manga that Goku is the coolest, strongest, #1 and so on.A silly writing on Daizenshuu's pages cannot convince me of anything.You say Toriyama has said it.Were you there when he said it?Have you recorded it?Do you have any evidence this is even an interview?All you keep babbling about is how Toriyama said this, Toriyama said that, no evidence whatsoever, as we have a word here in my country: Horse with covers, you just present a link with some writings and that is supposed to be an absolute fact that makes us all go: "Oh my God, how can I have been so dumb, of course Goku is stronger in his base form than Super Buu with Gohan absorbed, that he is the single most pure, most beautiful, cool character that has ever existed in all of fiction, and that no one is ever going to be as cool or as strong as him because he is maximum".Sounds a bit like: View AttachmentI bet if the link said Gohan was the strongest you would agree to no end. Just because something does not agree with your opinion doesn't mean it is fake.
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 9, 2016 16:24:17 GMT
We asked you to provide proof of Kid Buu being stronger and you linked Toriyama saying Goku is the coolest... It doesn't prove anything other than you don't even understand the argument like Toriyama barely understands his own work. I see why i don't take you seriously. I see why it takes FUCKING 4 of you just to have an argument with me. He said coolest and "Pure Strongest". If Goku is the strongest and Kid buu could fight him that already means Kid buu>Super Buu. Don't fight Toriyamas words. You will lose just like you have lost to me. How have I lost? I'm on the up hill side of this debate while you continue to dig a ditch. Like That Guy said: narcissism isn't a good look.
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Post by Ashanark on Oct 9, 2016 16:50:01 GMT
I see why i don't take you seriously. I see why it takes FUCKING 4 of you just to have an argument with me. He said coolest and "Pure Strongest". If Goku is the strongest and Kid buu could fight him that already means Kid buu>Super Buu. Don't fight Toriyamas words. You will lose just like you have lost to me. Okay, my friend, here's the situation. You've got two options. You can either: 1) Give responding to arguments a go, instead of just rehashing the same point. No one was attacking you (at least at first), and debating can actually be fun if everybody stays calm and respects the others. 2) keep ignoring what people say and repeat yourself over and over. One of the rules of this forum is "quality over quantity," and a quality response is not "I'm right, you're wrong, hahaha." Which is it going to be?
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 17:32:47 GMT
I see why i don't take you seriously. I see why it takes FUCKING 4 of you just to have an argument with me. He said coolest and "Pure Strongest". If Goku is the strongest and Kid buu could fight him that already means Kid buu>Super Buu. Don't fight Toriyamas words. You will lose just like you have lost to me. How have I lost? I'm on the up hill side of this debate while you continue to dig a ditch. Like That Guy said: narcissism isn't a good look. On the hill side of being in denial that ssj3 Goku and Kid Buu are stronger than Mystic Gohan and Super Buu. Mystic Gohans energy along with every other person on that planet plus the kais plus the nameks and could not stop Kid Buu. Goku had to go ssj just so that spirit bomb will take him down. Mystic Gohans energy is in the spirit bomb and is not enough to stop Kid Buu. Goku even suggest to bring Gohan or Goten and trunks to fuse and Vegeta declines since he knows it will not work. Reasons why people will say Gohan is stronger. Goku says he will lose to super buu. First off there are 2 ways to understand this. 1. He means if he goes ssj3 and Vegeta ssj2 they stand no chance. 2. He means if they go out there as ssj they will lose Even then Vegeta seemed confident about leaving Buu's body. Goku is the one over reacting. Goku saying Gohan can beat Buu piccolo This can also be taken in two different directions as well 1.He means Gohan can beat him and isn't worth his time. 2. He means Gohan can beat him because Gohan was beating Super buu. Goku never said Gohan was stronger than him. So i really doubt Super Buu is either since they were ssj when they said that. Your turn.
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 17:35:57 GMT
I see why i don't take you seriously. I see why it takes FUCKING 4 of you just to have an argument with me. He said coolest and "Pure Strongest". If Goku is the strongest and Kid buu could fight him that already means Kid buu>Super Buu. Don't fight Toriyamas words. You will lose just like you have lost to me. Okay, my friend, here's the situation. You've got two options. You can either: 1) Give responding to arguments a go, instead of just rehashing the same point. No one was attacking you (at least at first), and debating can actually be fun if everybody stays calm and respects the others. 2) keep ignoring what people say and repeat yourself over and over. One of the rules of this forum is "quality over quantity," and a quality response is not "I'm right, you're wrong, hahaha." Which is it going to be? I got 2 options for you 1. Don't reply to my replies to other people 2. State your reasonings on my replies and then never reply again because i don't feel like arguing with you right now. Choose i'll wait.
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 9, 2016 17:41:44 GMT
Not even worth my time The Perfect Narcissist.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Oct 9, 2016 17:42:46 GMT
On the hill side of being in denial that ssj3 Goku and Kid Buu are stronger than Mystic Gohan and Super Buu. I'll repeat myself: Endow Kid Buu with the great ability of absorbing people... only to make himself weaker.... makes a lot of sense right? Just like Super Buu (already weaker than Kid Buu) was getting trashed by Gohan until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo and effectively... became even weaker and trashed Gohan (?). Yeah... I guess so. It was only a small portion of his energy. Had he put his whole power, he'd have fainted like all other humans who contributed. If Gotenks or Gohan were present on Supreme Planet, Kid Buu would have been vaporized in one shot. Which is why they died and stayed on earth: to make the fight more drawn out and interesting between equals or almost equals: Goku SSJ3 and Kid Buu. Also, as far as I can remember, the spirit bomb DID WORK. Didn't that actually vaporize Kid Buu? It was Goku being tired and not able to push it properly what made them slack a little, not Gohan's lack of power. It means the first. Why would you go only as SSJ, when you have higher transformations (that also are not even enough to beat him?). As if Vegeta was totally uncapable of underestimating his opponets. He means the second one obviously. The Power up from absorbing Piccolo alone wouldn't be enough to deal with Gohan, unlike Buutenks. It doesn't matter if they were SSJ or not, what they said was clear, no matter how uppity or stupid you act around it: Vegeta and Goku at their maximum power wouldn't have stood a chance against Super Buu. Also, he's called SUPER Buu for a reason. It means he's a SUPERIOR Buu, unlike a Kid (children) Buu. The fact that Super Buu basically looks like an adult version of Kid Buu also doesn't help your case (nor the fact his power actually goes up when he abosrbs anyone).
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Oct 9, 2016 17:47:57 GMT
Okay, my friend, here's the situation. You've got two options. You can either: 1) Give responding to arguments a go, instead of just rehashing the same point. No one was attacking you (at least at first), and debating can actually be fun if everybody stays calm and respects the others. 2) keep ignoring what people say and repeat yourself over and over. One of the rules of this forum is "quality over quantity," and a quality response is not "I'm right, you're wrong, hahaha." Which is it going to be? I got 2 options for you 1. Don't reply to my replies to other people 2. State your reasonings on my replies and then never reply again because i don't feel like arguing with you right now. Choose i'll wait. Got two options for you: 1. Do not tell people who to reply to, this is a public forum. Don't want people to reply you? Don't post bullshits. 2. Use actual reasoning and stop attemtping to shut down everyone, because you'll be the one that will be shoot down. No, your almost-crying replies do not count as reasoning. You're utilizing headcanon bullshit and typical invalid ideas "Kid Boo be the last villain so he be the strongest." As exemplified by most of your interactions, no one here feels like your presence here is helpful or important. You're merely a dog that is being provoked because the other members find your unintelligence cute and are counter-trolling you. Choose, I'll wait.
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 17:48:03 GMT
On the hill side of being in denial that ssj3 Goku and Kid Buu are stronger than Mystic Gohan and Super Buu. I'll repeat myself: Endow Kid Buu with the great ability of absorbing people... only to make himself weaker.... makes a lot of sense right? Just like Super Buu (already weaker than Kid Buu) was getting trashed by Gohan until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo and effectively... became even weaker and trashed Gohan (?). Yeah... I guess so. It was only a small portion of his energy. Had he put his whole power, he'd have fainted like all other humans who contributed. If Gotenks or Gohan were present on Supreme Planet, Kid Buu would have been vaporized in one shot. Which is why they died and stayed on earth: to make the fight more drawn out and interesting between equals or almost equals: Goku SSJ3 and Kid Buu. Also, as far as I can remember, the spirit bomb DID WORK. Didn't that actually vaporize Kid Buu? It was Goku being tired and not able to push it properly what made them slack a little, not Gohan's lack of power. It means the first. Why would you go only as SSJ, when you have higher transformations (that also are not even enough to beat him?). As if Vegeta was totally uncapable of underestimating his opponets. He means the second one obviously. The Power up from absorbing Piccolo alone wouldn't be enough to deal with Gohan, unlike Buutenks. It doesn't matter if they were SSJ or not, what they said was clear, no matter how uppity or stupid you act around it: Vegeta and Goku at their maximum power wouldn't have stood a chance against Super Buu. Also, he's called SUPER Buu for a reason. It means he's a SUPERIOR Buu, unlike a Kid (children) Buu. The fact that Super Buu basically looks like an adult version of Kid Buu also doesn't help your case (nor the fact his power actually goes up when he abosrbs anyone). A small portion?? The earth is at stake yes please lets give the smallest portion ever. If Gohan is stronger why didn't Goku go "Fuck this Vegeta!!" Instant transmission to Gohan and make him fight Kid buu? I
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Post by The Perfect God on Oct 9, 2016 17:50:38 GMT
I'll repeat myself: Endow Kid Buu with the great ability of absorbing people... only to make himself weaker.... makes a lot of sense right? Just like Super Buu (already weaker than Kid Buu) was getting trashed by Gohan until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo and effectively... became even weaker and trashed Gohan (?). Yeah... I guess so. It was only a small portion of his energy. Had he put his whole power, he'd have fainted like all other humans who contributed. If Gotenks or Gohan were present on Supreme Planet, Kid Buu would have been vaporized in one shot. Which is why they died and stayed on earth: to make the fight more drawn out and interesting between equals or almost equals: Goku SSJ3 and Kid Buu. Also, as far as I can remember, the spirit bomb DID WORK. Didn't that actually vaporize Kid Buu? It was Goku being tired and not able to push it properly what made them slack a little, not Gohan's lack of power. It means the first. Why would you go only as SSJ, when you have higher transformations (that also are not even enough to beat him?). As if Vegeta was totally uncapable of underestimating his opponets. He means the second one obviously. The Power up from absorbing Piccolo alone wouldn't be enough to deal with Gohan, unlike Buutenks. It doesn't matter if they were SSJ or not, what they said was clear, no matter how uppity or stupid you act around it: Vegeta and Goku at their maximum power wouldn't have stood a chance against Super Buu. Also, he's called SUPER Buu for a reason. It means he's a SUPERIOR Buu, unlike a Kid (children) Buu. The fact that Super Buu basically looks like an adult version of Kid Buu also doesn't help your case (nor the fact his power actually goes up when he abosrbs anyone). A small portion?? The earth is at stake yes please lets give the smallest portion ever. If Gohan is stronger why didn't Goku go "Fuck this Vegeta!!" Instant transmission to Gohan and make him fight Kid buu? I Vegeta is cocky and arrogant but he knows when someone is stronger than him. Forgot to add that.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Oct 9, 2016 17:50:42 GMT
I'll repeat myself: Endow Kid Buu with the great ability of absorbing people... only to make himself weaker.... makes a lot of sense right? Just like Super Buu (already weaker than Kid Buu) was getting trashed by Gohan until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo and effectively... became even weaker and trashed Gohan (?). Yeah... I guess so. It was only a small portion of his energy. Had he put his whole power, he'd have fainted like all other humans who contributed. If Gotenks or Gohan were present on Supreme Planet, Kid Buu would have been vaporized in one shot. Which is why they died and stayed on earth: to make the fight more drawn out and interesting between equals or almost equals: Goku SSJ3 and Kid Buu. Also, as far as I can remember, the spirit bomb DID WORK. Didn't that actually vaporize Kid Buu? It was Goku being tired and not able to push it properly what made them slack a little, not Gohan's lack of power. It means the first. Why would you go only as SSJ, when you have higher transformations (that also are not even enough to beat him?). As if Vegeta was totally uncapable of underestimating his opponets. He means the second one obviously. The Power up from absorbing Piccolo alone wouldn't be enough to deal with Gohan, unlike Buutenks. It doesn't matter if they were SSJ or not, what they said was clear, no matter how uppity or stupid you act around it: Vegeta and Goku at their maximum power wouldn't have stood a chance against Super Buu. Also, he's called SUPER Buu for a reason. It means he's a SUPERIOR Buu, unlike a Kid (children) Buu. The fact that Super Buu basically looks like an adult version of Kid Buu also doesn't help your case (nor the fact his power actually goes up when he abosrbs anyone). A small portion?? The earth is at stake yes please lets give the smallest portion ever. If Gohan is stronger why didn't Goku go "Fuck this Vegeta!!" Instant transmission to Gohan and make him fight Kid buu? I I've decided this is your last post. Yep, reply a whole post of mine with a single, almost crying cringe line. Good job. Good bye 'son'.
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Oct 9, 2016 18:58:50 GMT
I've decided this is your last post. Yep, reply a whole post of mine with a single, almost crying cringe line. Good job. Good bye 'son'. I like how he said Goku being able to fight Kid Buu by himself but not being able to fight Super Buu without Vegeta somehow proves Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu lol. I'd reply to him telling him that but I'm pretty sure he's done for real this time.This. Right here. If you can't comprehend the statement, then kindly go rewatch the anime and reread the manga.
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Oct 9, 2016 18:59:06 GMT
Crap, now I can't find my posts and who to respond to. I'm just gonna use @ for now.
@android 13 Correct me if this is wrong,
SS3 Goku < Super Buu < Mystic Gohan Otherwise, thanks for the clarity
@the Perfect God I see you also circumvent directly asked questions... I hate that. Answer the question or just admit defeat. Also, 8 hours sleep? Who the fuck cares. We get it if you logged out, but acting like your life supersedes properly answering someone's question they took the time to respond to, that's just disrespectful man.
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Post by Android 13 on Oct 9, 2016 20:01:21 GMT
Crap, now I can't find my posts and who to respond to. I'm just gonna use @ for now. @android 13 Correct me if this is wrong, SS3 Goku < Super Buu < Mystic Gohan Otherwise, thanks for the clarity @the Perfect God I see you also circumvent directly asked questions... I hate that. Answer the question or just admit defeat. Also, 8 hours sleep? Who the fuck cares. We get it if you logged out, but acting like your life supersedes properly answering someone's question they took the time to respond to, that's just disrespectful man. Absolutely correct, you have gotten it right.Couldn't have said it better myself.Also, nice decision Genghis, what makes it now, forth ban already? People sure like to argue with headcanons, not that I don't, but except for a few instances, I find them to be correct.Going around posting fake interviews and then excepting that it would argue in their stead, lol .
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Oct 9, 2016 20:04:57 GMT
Crap, now I can't find my posts and who to respond to. I'm just gonna use @ for now. @android 13 Correct me if this is wrong, SS3 Goku < Super Buu < Mystic Gohan Otherwise, thanks for the clarity @the Perfect God I see you also circumvent directly asked questions... I hate that. Answer the question or just admit defeat. Also, 8 hours sleep? Who the fuck cares. We get it if you logged out, but acting like your life supersedes properly answering someone's question they took the time to respond to, that's just disrespectful man. Absolutely correct, you have gotten it right.Couldn't have said it better myself.Also, nice decision Genghis, what makes it now, forth ban already? People sure like to argue with headcanons, not that I don't, but except for a few instances, I find them to be correct.Going around posting fake interviews and then excepting that it would argue in their stead, lol . Third one actually. sardorim should be able to post again now (it was a 2 days vacation). Either way, we can resume the thread normally now between all remaining users.
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Post by thejoke on Oct 10, 2016 5:12:38 GMT
HA you're a funny old mod! I Laughed at the fact you banned me because you could not convince me that
Mystic>Ssj3Goku
I know i will may get banned again 99.9% i will but that doesn't matter at this point at least i get to say what i need to say.
Disrespectful?!?! The only thing that is disrespectful is how you banned me over an argument you could not win and then have your little internet buddies reply to my post after I've been banned.
I provided evidence which was the link. If you do not agree with what Toriyama says then fine you don't have to believe what you want but what i have said was pure fact. Ssj3 Goku is the Pure Strongest!!!
The spirit bomb had Mystic Gohans energy. Goku had energy at first and then ran out he even had to go ssj to finish the job which shows the spirit bomb not being strong enough to take him down.
That Guy since when have i said Goku and Vegeta tag team Super Buu? I put up two different scenarios and that's all.
The Real Karkarotto
I am still confused on how you even got into this argument.
I don't know why you guys just don't reply to me anymore you have already lost. Nothing trumps (Get it Trumps lol) Toriyama's words and that's something you guys just don't seem to understand.
Vegito>Buuhan>Buutenks>Ssj3 Goku>Kid Buu>Mystic Gohan>Buuiccolo>Super Buu>Ssj3 Gotenks>Evil Buu>Fat Buu
Now i will go back to being a guest and watching you people talk about a person who can't reply because he is banned off people who got angry because they couldn't get me to agree with Mystic>ssj3 Goku.
Edit, by Ashanark: My my my...what large writing. Let's calm this down a bit...all writing downsized to 10 point font, and spoilers added. Proceed, everyone.
Edit 2: Back, by popular demand...you know, for transparency and stuff.
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Post by Ashanark on Oct 10, 2016 5:21:43 GMT
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 10, 2016 5:59:32 GMT
Figured that'd happen sooner than later.
How much longer till that narcissist learns he's wrong I wonder.
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