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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Jan 18, 2017 3:28:59 GMT
The parasite alien gave that movie star the weird bunch of transformations. First he gained more muscle and an antenna which wasn't too weird, then he transformed into a giant gorilla with a mullet (reminded me of Jesse Venture for some reason. No offense to him because I think he's cool!), and finally transformed into some type of reptile monster thing. It's like Toei had some backup designs for different aliens and decided "nah let's just give them all to one guy and come up with better ones later!". I even made tried to make comparisons to "past" villains with each of Wata-Barry's transformations. First one was mimicking Baby in a way (basic and the parasite controls the host) Second one was what I thought to be a mix between Oozaru and Dabura's form Last one, Fake Namekians came to my mind. |
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Post by Azoth on Jan 18, 2017 22:51:14 GMT
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Post by Ashanark on Jan 18, 2017 23:47:45 GMT
I actually like it. So many Dragon Ball characters all look the same, just with slightly different hair, so I like how this God of Destruction has a very nonstandard design. It goes well with the "I don't look dangerous, but I am" theme Dragon Ball so often runs with. I also like his incredibly manly angel attendant.
What I'm more worried about is all of the other U7 fighters not getting a chance to shine besides Goku and Vegeta--that this C17 and 18 advertising is just building up a lot of false hopes.
Going by looks alone, do you think this guy could take Beerus? I bet he could beat Champa. He'll probably have an extremely gruff, unfriendly personality with a goofy streak and a fondness for food. And are all the angels children of the Grand Priest, or do you think this guy's a cousin of Whis' or something?
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Post by Android 13 on Jan 19, 2017 1:01:51 GMT
Super just died right now.Completely and utterly.Dead.Or it transformed itself into a kid's show.Like 4-5 years old kids. |
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Post by Azoth on Jan 19, 2017 2:16:06 GMT
I want to see how this arc pans out before I say "RIP in peace" to Super. If nothing else, we can just consider it an alternate timeline, like GT!
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Post by Axalon on Jan 19, 2017 2:21:13 GMT
Kami damn it I'm a couple hours late to post that picture. Oh well.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Jan 19, 2017 2:22:31 GMT
Well, can't say I'm very impressed. I was hoping a whole Ancient Egyptian pantheon. This is not bad by itself (and I'm sure totally glad it's just not a short Beerus or Champa) but I at least hope all the other gods follow animal themes.
I hope to see an Elephant or an Eagle god. I like how his assistant looks like though. Looks like a manlier whis, and his color scheme is interesting too.
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Post by Azoth on Jan 19, 2017 2:23:48 GMT
Well, can't say I'm very impressed. I was hoping a whole Ancient Egyptian pantheon. This is not bad by itself (and I'm sure totally glad it's just not a short Beerus or Champa) but I at least hope all the other gods follow animal themes. I hope to see an Elephant or an Eagle god. I like how his assistant looks like though. Looks like a manlier whis, and his color scheme is interesting too. I was hoping for that too, honestly. I guess this does allow for more variety, but I would love a bird god (or goddess). |
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Post by Son Pan on Jan 19, 2017 2:24:20 GMT
I actually like it. So many Dragon Ball characters all look the same, just with slightly different hair, so I like how this God of Destruction has a very nonstandard design. It goes well with the "I don't look dangerous, but I am" theme Dragon Ball so often runs with. I also like his incredibly manly angel attendant. What I'm more worried about is all of the other U7 fighters not getting a chance to shine besides Goku and Vegeta--that this C17 and 18 advertising is just building up a lot of false hopes. Going by looks alone, do you think this guy could take Beerus? I bet he could beat Champa. He'll probably have an extremely gruff, unfriendly personality with a goofy streak and a fondness for food. And are all the angels children of the Grand Priest, or do you think this guy's a cousin of Whis' or something? I fully expect everyone else to get token matches and everything hinges on Goku and Vegeta to be honest. 18 and 17 probably won't do much or just get one match each where they lose to build tension. As for the new god of destruction I can see him being a someone who overestimates his skills and power and being one of the weaker gods of destruction. It would be cool if he was stronger than Beerus and Champa. |
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Post by Axalon on Jan 19, 2017 2:29:10 GMT
What I'm more worried about is all of the other U7 fighters not getting a chance to shine besides Goku and Vegeta--that this C17 and 18 advertising is just building up a lot of false hopes. That's exactly what I'm worried about for everyone that isn't Goku or Vegeta. So unless Whis takes everyone under his wing for a little bit or something equally crazy I just don't see how anyone could reasonably contribute unless the other universes also have similarly weak fighters by comparison. I think, but can't recall, that at one point it was said in an episode that Beerus and Champa were on the lower end of the scale as far as Gods of Destruction go. But again I can't remember exactly when that was. |
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Post by Ashanark on Jan 19, 2017 2:42:23 GMT
Well, can't say I'm very impressed. I was hoping a whole Ancient Egyptian pantheon. This is not bad by itself (and I'm sure totally glad it's just not a short Beerus or Champa) but I at least hope all the other gods follow animal themes. I hope to see an Elephant or an Eagle god. I like how his assistant looks like though. Looks like a manlier whis, and his color scheme is interesting too. I was hoping for that too, honestly. I guess this does allow for more variety, but I would love a bird god (or goddess). It would be nice to see a Goddess of Destruction. Android 18 became irrelevant like 200 episodes ago, we need a new female character who can keep up with the guys. I'm sure glad this Ganondwarf guy is wearing a shirt. Son Pan AxalonMy confidence in Toriyama/Toei is very low at this moment. Maybe Toyotaro would do better, but not those other two. I know this won't happen, but I'd love to have a points-based tournament instead of a straight bracket tournament. As in, the universe who wins is the universe who defeats the most opponents. It's not so much having one really strong guy who can defeat anyone he comes up against, but having 10 guys who can beat most of the people they fight. In a straight tournament format, 9 members of your team could get defeated but your one member could still become the champion. Your team technically wins, but everyone knows nine of your guys suck. Going by total wins, having everyone but your best fighter scrub out in the first round means your universe only gets six total wins. A universe with more depth in their team may not win the championship fight, but if just about everyone makes it to the quarterfinals they'll have waaay more wins. I think this would be much more interesting (and a better way to give the other 8 guys a chance) than a bracket elimination tournament, which Dragon Ball did for all 10 years of its runtime. Heck, I might slip in a total-wins tournament in a fanfic someday. |
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Post by Azoth on Jan 19, 2017 2:42:55 GMT
AxalonI figure a lot of universes won't have the same crop of fighters our universes do. Sure, they'll bring their best, but I bet there'll only be a handful that can step up to Goku/Vegeta, maybe one that is above them.
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Post by Axalon on Jan 19, 2017 2:46:09 GMT
Axalon I figure a lot of universes won't have the same crop of fighters our universes do. Sure, they'll bring their best, but I bet there'll only be a handful that can step up to Goku/Vegeta, maybe one that is above them. Oh undoubtedly. I think it just shows how starved I (and others) are for some character diversity. Words cannot express how mad I was that Piccolo was cheated out of his victory against Frost after throwing everything AND the kitchen sink at him and was on the verge of victory. Granted, Goku had done a lot of work to soften him up, but still. |
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Post by Son Pan on Jan 19, 2017 2:53:13 GMT
I think, but can't recall, that at one point it was said in an episode that Beerus and Champa were on the lower end of the scale as far as Gods of Destruction go. But again I can't remember exactly when that was. If I recall correctly that was in the original Battle of the Gods, but I'm not sure how reliable it still is. Goku was able to match 70% of Beerus' power in the original, but in Super Beerus is far stronger than Goku and even SSB Vegetto is still weaker than him. It is up in the air if Beerus will remain one on the lower end or being in the upper levels of the gods. |
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Post by Axalon on Jan 19, 2017 6:22:08 GMT
I think, but can't recall, that at one point it was said in an episode that Beerus and Champa were on the lower end of the scale as far as Gods of Destruction go. But again I can't remember exactly when that was. If I recall correctly that was in the original Battle of the Gods, but I'm not sure how reliable it still is. Goku was able to match 70% of Beerus' power in the original, but in Super Beerus is far stronger than Goku and even SSB Vegetto is still weaker than him. It is up in the air if Beerus will remain one on the lower end or being in the upper levels of the gods. ARRGH. The only thing I can find on it is a blurb on the DB wiki about how the other Destruction Gods are "more violent" than Beerus or Champa. Naturally wiki being wiki it doesn't bother to SOURCE the damn quote...and I really don't feel like trudging through DBS for such a minor sentence anyway. That said, given that so far each God of Destruction and their attendant has been named after an alcoholic beverage of some kind (beer, whiskey, champagne, calvados), I wonder what the other Gods will be named. Wino? Vodka? Bourbon? Rum? Gin? Tonic? (Okay, Gin & Tonic just HAVE to be a God/Angel pair). |
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Post by Azoth on Jan 19, 2017 11:51:43 GMT
I remember that, in Battle of Gods, Beerus mentions towards the end of the movie that there are gods in the other universes that are stronger than him. No word on where he stands on the scale.
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Post by Android 13 on Jan 19, 2017 13:10:05 GMT
Well, can't say I'm very impressed. I was hoping a whole Ancient Egyptian pantheon. This is not bad by itself (and I'm sure totally glad it's just not a short Beerus or Champa) but I at least hope all the other gods follow animal themes. I hope to see an Elephant or an Eagle god. I like how his assistant looks like though. Looks like a manlier whis, and his color scheme is interesting too. Instead we get a Whis with a even more gay-ish hairstyle, and a Gaulish God of Destruction?What is this?Asterix?  Do you find any similarities?I cannot find any differences if you ask me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 16:20:27 GMT
I think, but can't recall, that at one point it was said in an episode that Beerus and Champa were on the lower end of the scale as far as Gods of Destruction go. But again I can't remember exactly when that was. If I recall correctly that was in the original Battle of the Gods, but I'm not sure how reliable it still is. Goku was able to match 70% of Beerus' power in the original, but in Super Beerus is far stronger than Goku and even SSB Vegetto is still weaker than him. It is up in the air if Beerus will remain one on the lower end or being in the upper levels of the gods. Wait a minute. When was that stated? |
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Post by Ashanark on Jan 19, 2017 20:50:50 GMT
If I recall correctly that was in the original Battle of the Gods, but I'm not sure how reliable it still is. Goku was able to match 70% of Beerus' power in the original, but in Super Beerus is far stronger than Goku and even SSB Vegetto is still weaker than him. It is up in the air if Beerus will remain one on the lower end or being in the upper levels of the gods. Wait a minute. When was that stated? There was a magazine clipping (I think you can see it posted many pages earlier in this thread) that was prepping for the Vegito vs. Fused Zamasu episode. Somebody asked the Toei guy in charge "Who is the strongest fighter?" and he replied "Well, Beerus is overwhelmingly strong...but after that, I'd say it's Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black." The man's response was clearly not taking into account Fused Zamasu or SSB Vegito, since both of those are obviously stronger than SSR Goku Black. I think it's ridiculous to assume Beerus is stronger than SSB Vegito. So I don't think it's been stated at all. |
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Post by Son Pan on Jan 19, 2017 21:51:52 GMT
Wait a minute. When was that stated? There was a magazine clipping (I think you can see it posted many pages earlier in this thread) that was prepping for the Vegito vs. Fused Zamasu episode. Somebody asked the Toei guy in charge "Who is the strongest fighter?" and he replied "Well, Beerus is overwhelmingly strong...but after that, I'd say it's Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black." The man's response was clearly not taking into account Fused Zamasu or SSB Vegito, since both of those are obviously stronger than SSR Goku Black. I think it's ridiculous to assume Beerus is stronger than SSB Vegito. So I don't think it's been stated at all. There was another one where Toriyama said he never wanted Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus too. Added to this one I figured Beerus would always remaining stronger than the Z cast regardless of much training they did. Goku and Vegeta abuse the time chamber now and get years worth of training and still haven't closed the gap I figured it meant even fusing into Vegetto would do no good to close the gap. It was never stated. Since Beerus doesn't train it is safe to say the only way for him to remain the strongest is that he is just so far ahead no amount of training will let them catch up. Basically Beerus is Gohan except he suffers none of the consequences of declining power from lack of training lol. |
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