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Post by Kirasha on Mar 23, 2018 21:35:40 GMT
Either way, from what I know, he's only meant for the Legends game and is the main character of the story mode apparently.
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Post by Son Pan on Mar 23, 2018 22:45:34 GMT
By the way, it may have been said already, but don't skip the ending song tomorrow. Apparently they put something really special together that you won't want to miss.
I don't know what exactly, but it's got me excited. It is the last episode (at least for a while), so wouldn't it just be one of those endings where it shows the aftermath and or what everyone is doing while the credits and song play then maybe give an announcement for the upcoming movie?
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Post by Axalon on Mar 23, 2018 23:12:44 GMT
By the way, it may have been said already, but don't skip the ending song tomorrow. Apparently they put something really special together that you won't want to miss.
I don't know what exactly, but it's got me excited. It is the last episode (at least for a while), so wouldn't it just be one of those endings where it shows the aftermath and or what everyone is doing while the credits and song play then maybe give an announcement for the upcoming movie? Watch it literally just be Goku fighting Uub at the tournament lol.
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Post by Son Pan on Mar 23, 2018 23:22:29 GMT
It is the last episode (at least for a while), so wouldn't it just be one of those endings where it shows the aftermath and or what everyone is doing while the credits and song play then maybe give an announcement for the upcoming movie? Watch it literally just be Goku fighting Uub at the tournament lol. That makes sense. It would line Super up right back to the original Dragon Ball manga/Dragon Ball Z anime without making Super a Shaggy Dog story or retconning the original ending.
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Post by Axalon on Mar 24, 2018 17:13:47 GMT
Watch it literally just be Goku fighting Uub at the tournament lol. That makes sense. It would line Super up right back to the original Dragon Ball manga/Dragon Ball Z anime without making Super a Shaggy Dog story or retconning the original ending. Well, it could still be a Shaggy Dog story...it would just then get lazily tied up into EoZ with a credits montage. Really it depends on how the ToP ends. - Is the timeline going to get altered so Goku never meets Beerus, rendering all of DBS pointless? This is the "cleanest" option to get things back to EoZ as by retconning all of DBS it in turn retcons even the smaller retcons like Vegeta knowing about Uub and returns Goku to a Kid Buu-ish level of power. That said if we're literally altering time that far back then logically the tournament shouldn't even happen because Golden Frieza is going to dunk all over SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta in about a year and four months from now. - Perhaps god ki gets stripped away from all mortals? (RIP Goku, Hit's gonna get you now). Similar to the first option. It places Goku back on Kid Buu levels of power without literally undoing all of DBS in the process. A theoretical Uub with full access to Kid Buu's power (as was initially believed he would) would then be more of an exciting match for Goku than Vegeta would be. Golden Frieza won't be a future problem since it's already happened and Frieza is presumably still dead because Scumbag Goku is terrible at resurrecting people nowadays, just ask King Kai. - Will it change nothing and just skip to EoZ abruptly and have absurdly power creeped MUI Goku declaring that Uub is the fighter he's most excited for seeing and Piccolo declaring that Goku vs Uub will be THE match of the tournament even though Vegeta is also competing and logically be much stronger than Kid Buu was at this stage? I can't wait to see how DBS screws this up somehow and comes up with a fourth option that's even more absurd.
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Post by Archon on Mar 25, 2018 19:33:41 GMT
My guess is that the special scene was Vegeta vs Goku using the same poses and area or earth they first fought in Saiyan Saga. Except this time they’re both Blue. Other than that I didn’t really see anything ‘special’
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Post by iron leaf on Mar 25, 2018 22:25:01 GMT
My guess is that the special scene was Vegeta vs Goku using the same poses and area or earth they first fought in Saiyan Saga. Except this time they’re both Blue. Other than that I didn’t really see anything ‘special’ What makes me sad about this part. People gonna say from now on this was a brilliant callback. I already heard people calling this ending good. ![](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/631/452/4c6.jpg) DBS really set the bar very, very low.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 0:58:12 GMT
My guess is that the special scene was Vegeta vs Goku using the same poses and area or earth they first fought in Saiyan Saga. Except this time they’re both Blue. Other than that I didn’t really see anything ‘special’ What makes me sad about this part. People gonna say from now on this was a brilliant callback. I already heard people calling this ending good. ![](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/631/452/4c6.jpg) DBS really set the bar very, very low. Or you know.... the ending scene was a nice call back and the last episode was actually good.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Mar 26, 2018 1:07:38 GMT
My guess is that the special scene was Vegeta vs Goku using the same poses and area or earth they first fought in Saiyan Saga. Except this time they’re both Blue. Other than that I didn’t really see anything ‘special’ What makes me sad about this part. People gonna say from now on this was a brilliant callback. I already heard people calling this ending good. ![](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/631/452/4c6.jpg) DBS really set the bar very, very low. How would you have done it instead? Honestly I found it quite compelling considering the serie it was. All the issues this ending could have are a staple of DBS instead, and not of the ending properly. They wrote themselves into a corner but again, this was not an issue of the ending itself. It's a general DBS problem. The ending sorta managed to avoid that corner and end it appropriately. I think any major variation would just cause major souring like it happened with the Zamasu arc. I am not pushover when it comes to crapping on DBS but I give it credit where it's due.
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Post by Axalon on Mar 26, 2018 2:02:33 GMT
My only "complaint" if you will about the callback scene would be that they should've had the hair flowing in the wind instead of the hairsprayed static SSB hair. Then again they'd probably already used all their budget against Jiren so I don't really mind. Truth be told I was more hyped about Frieza reclaiming his throne than the iconic Vegeta vs Goku pose. Also:
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Post by Azoth on Mar 26, 2018 19:28:26 GMT
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Post by Kirasha on Mar 26, 2018 21:06:38 GMT
First Hit, now Frieza. Poor Vegeta.
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Post by Archon on Mar 26, 2018 23:16:35 GMT
First Hit, now Frieza. Poor Vegeta. Next it’ll be Caulifla ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Xeno Black on Mar 27, 2018 5:16:48 GMT
It honestly feels good to have actual positive things to say about Super for once. As a fan since five years old (goddamn I've been invested for this series for 18 years lol), I like the fact it is still able to provide me good action when it comes down to it. Everyone knows in this forum I am easily one of the most advent haters of Super for quite some time, but it is refreshing and reassuring to see kickass shit from your most cherished series of all time. It gives you hope that perhaps it is truly not over yet and greater things are bound to come forth...hopefully.
Anyways since Super is now over, there is many things the sequel can cover that is left open from the original run. Hopefully topics such as these will be brought forth in the light:
1. Beerus involvement in Planet Vegeta's Destruction - The mere fact he was responsible in Planet Vegeta's death will make Vegeta pissed if he ever finds out. Perhaps this will lead a epic duel between them with Vegeta vowing to become the next god of destruction...by killing Beerus as payment.
2. Vegeta visiting Planet Salad in U6 - As the master of Cabba, it would be Vegeta's great interest to see how Planet Salad is along with all the other saiyans. And meeting the King. Would provide excellent info about saiyans as a whole.
3. Frieza's Future Roles - As the supreme ruler of the Planet Trade Organization again, his accursed presence will rock U7 down the line as he further trains himself along with the pursuit of trying to attain the Super Dragon Balls.
4. Zamasu (?) - Whether he is truly gone or is secretly plotting his vengeance, his memory and unseen presence might make something big happen down the line.
5. Future Trunks (?) - He might make a cameo again and reveal how his life been like living in the alternative future timeline.
6. Extended Backgrounds - The likes of Beerus, Frost, U6 saiyans, Frieza, Hit (especially), and Jiren (most definitely) need to happen to flesh out these characters even more. So much is unknown about them that it is crazy to think about. This also includes origins such as Kid Buu or even the Grand Priest and Zamasu.
7. Universes 1, 5, 8, 12 - How are these universes exactly and what powerful mortals dwell in their chambers? Or how is time travel in universe 12 like exactly?
8 Destroyed Universes 13 to 18 - How were these universes and their respective occupants. Great opportunity to explore forgotten realms that no longer exist.
9. Top 5 strongest fighters - So far only the Grand Priest has been named (and stated by Whis to be the absolute strongest), so who are the other 4? Since Jiren wasn't named in the list and was just seen as a rumor of a mortal being stronger than a destroyer god, it is possible that the other four could be even stronger than him and are not from divine backgrounds. If so they reside in the four spared universes and might play a big role down the line. Or they are simply angels and are just keeping a low profile.
10. Rematch against Beerus - Goku in one way or another needs to fight Beerus again to see where he stands against him now. If Goku somehow relearns to tap back into Ultra Instinct, he has a very good opportunity of defeating Beerus and proving himself that training can change anything. But if so then Goku's next targets will then become Whis or the Grand Priest, fueling his desire for more power. Excellent material to propel Goku further in the godly tiers.
11. Rematch against Hit - Since Hit is forever on a assassination mission against Goku, these two can go at it to see who is truly superior compared to the other. Great filler material indeed.
12. Rematch against Jiren - Title says it all lol.
13. Yamoshi (?) - While the upcoming movie will probably reveal more about the character, it wouldn't hurt to delve deeper in his character if the movie purposefully leaves out details about him for future references. As both the first super saiyan and super saiyan god in his universe, his tale is bound to be long and exciting.
14. Uub - It needs to happen one way or another. Plus his mysterious origins as Kid Buu may come into light if the right characters meet him since originally he was time immemorial.
15. Xenoverse - Does Chronoa exist along with the problems of time travel and Demon World? Would be a great way to expand Dragon Ball's endless possibilities or make FighterZ unique storyline canon.
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Mar 27, 2018 5:33:47 GMT
Who would have preferred to have Goku in White Ultra Instinct facing off against Beerus in full power, instead of him and Vegeta acting passive aggressive towards each other, as the final screen of DBS?
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Post by Andres on Mar 29, 2018 14:35:03 GMT
I have a bone to pick with Super/Chou (both maga and anime). Actually, I have it with all Dragon Ball, but Super is the current thing so my current bone is with da current thaang.
Android 17 and 18 are twins. Both abducted when they were younger and enhanced to a beyond Super Saiyan tier. Yet, they both hated Gero for what he did to them and hated their enhancements. Most specifically, the bomb within them.
Now, these enhancements didn't seem to mess up with their heads much. 17 is kind of a prankster and a rebel/anarchist who turned his back on Gero right from the start. 18 was a badass girl who couldn't be bothered but she had a genuine good heart and developed feelings for Krilin early on, eventually leading to a family.
Where am I going with this? The present-day Cyborgs weren't the murderous bastards the Mirai ones were. They were two young fellows traumatized by their experiences who managed to pull through. They genuinely cared for each other, like siblings do, and both ended up with happy adult lives of their own: 18 with Krilin and Marron and 17 with his wife, his kids and his Wildlife Protection job.
What is my bone? Their names. Or more specifically, how they treated each other, how they named each other and Super's missed opportunity of properly introducing their names.
As we all know, they are called Lapis and Lazuli. To be honest, I really like those names. For some reason, I think they fit. Now, they were sibling for at least... I dont know, let's say 18 years before Gero's kidnapping. Both were Cyborgized but as Super showed, they are not immortal and they also age. Perhaps not as fast as a regular human, but they do age. 18 is shown to be an adult in Super, or at least, older than Z. Heck, even Buu saga 18 looks older tha Cell saga's.
So, they spent roughly 18 years together. They both hated being turned into a Cyborg and the whole ordeal. So why in hell is 18 still calling 17 by his Android number???
Super was the perfect ocasion to introduce them to their names. Specially the Krillin-17 reunion. For example, they get out of the chopper and 18 says something like - "Lapis. Long time no see" - "This is an unexpected reunion" - "Try to look a little happier"
And then Krilin goes Wait. Who the hell is Lapis? And 18 says He is Lapis. That's his real name. And then we get the reveal. Krilin would be all like WAAAAAaAaAaaAAAT and then ask DO YOU HAVE A HUMAN NAME TOO? with 17 promptly revealing it.
Because in-universe, KRILIN DOESN'T KNOW HIS WIFE TRUE NAME AND STILL CALLS HER BY HER CYBORG NAME. I mean, what the hell man?? It's like Frieza decided to name Vegeta "Frieza-slave 319" after the Saiyan genocide and Vegeta still using this name to this present day.
Gohan calls Goku "dad". Vegeta calls him "Kakarot", Bulma calls him "Son-kun". Piccolo calls him "Son", but 18, instead of calling 17 either "brother!" or "Lapis", he calls him by his Android number. Something he most likely dislikes. It always sounds weird when she, of all people, use their number.
IMO it would be a cute change during the ToP, with only Krilin and 18 calling him Lapis while everyone else calls him 17.
I think Super missed this chance. They introduced the notion of 17 having a family of his own, but didn't think it'd be a cool idea to reveal his name. Heck, they even made a jist on Marron's name!
Double heck, even Marron calls him "uncle". Marron is more familiar with his long-lost uncle than his own sister.
Anyway, enough ranting. Lapis for President.
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Post by Archon on Mar 29, 2018 15:54:37 GMT
Andres
Gero wiped their memories clean, so they don't know their names. Sounds like a job for Whis-ex-machina
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Post by Son Pan on Mar 30, 2018 5:45:35 GMT
It could be possible that all the trauma Gero put them through caused them to repress their memories of their life before and they have forgotten their true names. It could even be something as sick as Gero conditioned them to be referred to as numbers with torture that they eventually gave in and through further tinkering on them and their minds that Gero deleted that information when he uploaded them with knowledge on who the hell Son Goku and his friends are for better control over them. If the good doctor kidnapped runaways off the streets for experiments it wouldn't be passed him to do horrific stuff to make sure they lose their true names and only think of themselves by their numbers to dehumanize them and make them into the obedient cybernetic super warriors he craved. In fact crap like that would explain why 17 and 18 became such sadistic and twisted fucks they were in Future Trunks' timeline. 17 and 18 still only referring to each other by numbers could be that Gero stole their true names from them and they can only refer to each other by numbers their tormentor named them.
They could just own up to their numbers and make them their new names to refer to the new lives they made for themselves. 18 doesn't just chose a new name because that was the name she had when she met Krillin. Despite everything else it didn't stop Krillin from seeing her as more than just a machine. She keeps the name to celebrate that fact and her and Krillin's love and take away the power from Gero. Or you know I overthought this and rationalized the hell out of it.
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Post by Axalon on Apr 1, 2018 21:02:17 GMT
Here you go Ashanark! The full Tournament of Power! REAL TIME!
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Post by Namikaze on Apr 1, 2018 22:10:14 GMT
Helles is disgusted by the ugly editing of that video.
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