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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 18, 2016 18:49:12 GMT
This happens and then bra stops the autobot decepticon war. Attachments:
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Post by Archon on Aug 18, 2016 18:52:20 GMT
Is....is that official? Cuz it sure looks like it lol
That's awesome!
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Aug 18, 2016 18:55:40 GMT
This happens and then bra stops the autobot decepticon war. Woooot. Where did you get that from?
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 18, 2016 18:56:21 GMT
Is....is that official? Cuz it sure looks like it lol That's awesome! Bra unhurt killing a creature twice her power level without a sweat like a boss... Yep it's most likely official. I mean if it made sense or made Cold actually useful I might doubt it.. but yeah it's most likely true.
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 18, 2016 18:58:31 GMT
This happens and then bra stops the autobot decepticon war. Woooot. Where did you get that from? A friend gave me a link to it, said it was on facebook for a bit.
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Post by Super Saiyan PINK Goku Black on Aug 18, 2016 18:59:30 GMT
Is....is that official? Cuz it sure looks like it lol That's awesome! Bra unhurt killing a creature twice her power level without a sweat like a boss... Yep it's most likely official. I mean if it made sense or made Cold actually useful I might doubt it.. but yeah it's most likely true. I really like the way you think - perfect reasoning, no sarcasm...
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Post by Kaio del Norte on Aug 18, 2016 19:45:40 GMT
Well, even though we're seven years and almost four rounds into this thing, we've still gotta have one, right? Post your predictions for the tournament here, so that when DBM finishes however many years from now, you can come back and see how you did. Third Round:
Gast vs. Raichi: Gast. Though having Raichi win would lead to a possibly interesting fight against Saiyans later on, Gast is an original character with too much potential to go to waste--especially if he can help humble Bra. If Raichi is killed in this match, Hatchiyak will reappear later on in the tournament to cause trouble, like Broly and Buu did. Fourth Round:
Goku vs. Uub: Goku. Uub is promising, but he's still a bit too young to beat Goku, and he would have less drama facing Vegeta or Cell. This will primarily be a good-spirited match. Uub will put up a good fight, but eventually forfeit. Vegeta vs. Cell: Vegeta. This would give Vegeta a chance to prove himself after losing to Cell so many years before. This will be a brutal match, since neither opponent takes losing well. Vegeta wins by killing Cell, and probably by unveiling his "hidden power," though it'll really make him mad to do so. XXI vs. Buu: XXI; He'll likely use the Babidi imprisonment spell, since unveiling his true form would likely end the tournament. Buu will have some contingency plans ready, though, and will definitely get angry if he loses. I agree 100% with you so far. Raichi is an interresting character but after one hell of an epic fight (vs. U13 Vegeta) and possibly one even more intense (vs. Gast) I don't think he would be up to much more after this and his fights would quickly become repetitive. I think he'll just fade away from the story after he's had his moment, like Broly and Bojack. Gast, on the other hand, hasn't showed all of his powers and I suspect he could be on par with Buu and Vegetto. We'll see but I'm pretty sure he'll make it at least to the semifinal... As for the 3 first fights of the 4th round I have nothing more to add, you pretty much put it the way I see it. Although there is a slight possibility that Goku forfeits to Uub just to give him the opportunity to face Cell or Vegeta (in which case both of them would be really pissed off). I still think Goku will win but he's been known to take funny decisions sometimes so I'm not 100% sure. As for the Cell vs. Vegeta, both have a chance but I'll go with Vegeta. It's gonna be an epic fight. Even the pre-fight 'facing foes' dialogue will be pure gold. And XXI has too much build-up and mystery surounding him to simply lose now. Clearly he is the main antagonist. My prediction is that he will use the magic key word to send Buu back into his coccoon. Buu could have done something about it but never really had a chance to study him and has no clue about who he's facing. But when it comes to Bra vs. Gast, I'm 80% sure it's gonna be Gast. As I said before, he hasn't yet showed much of his power (and still might not even do so against Raichi) nor did he had much time under the spotlights yet. Unlike Bra. I do not hate her nor do I think she's a Mary Sue (this debate is pointless and boring) but she does need to be humbled and learn about stuff (I think we all agree). Bra losing on the 4th round against Gast seems just about right to me. Goku vs. Vegeta... Probably Goku, but who knows? After this I can't make any prediction. I feel anything I could say about XXI vs. Gast would be wrong... I'm not even sure they're gonna get this far, I feel there will be an interruption before the end of the tournament...
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Post by zenbuu on Aug 19, 2016 18:40:05 GMT
As I am zenbuu, I am not the zen buu from universe 4. DONT GET US CONFUSED!
Here are my predictions for the rest of the tournament
Gast vs raichi
Well it's kinda hard to say, although I do believe gast can destroy raichi pretty easily so all he had to deal with is hatchiyak. Also I believe gasts wish is far to important to loose now so I'm gonna go with gast
Goku vs uub
This one should be obvious, for a while I thought goku may throw in the towel, but we need a goku vs vegeta fight. So I'm going with goku
Vegeta vs cell
I cannot wait for this match. I think vegeta will win for plot reasons only. Maybe he will show his true power.
Xxi vs buu
Although I would love to root for myself I have to use my intellect that I gathered from Bulma. Xxi is the "big bad" so unless I absorb him xxi wins.
Gast vs bra
Um probably gast but I can see that furious girl being hard to beat. Maybe she will go super saiyan 2, but tire herself out to quickly and be defeated. So I'm going with gast.
Goku vs vegeta
Let's be honest goku will win this or vegetas speech about goku in dbz would mean nothing
Xxi vs gast
What if xxi unfused gast. Then gast would have his wish and he would forfeit. I don't know why not. It makes sense for it to be main protagonist vs main antagonist.
Goku vs xxi
Goku will come up with something and win this tournament.
Well that all folks see u again MUHAHAHAHAHAH
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Post by Kaio del Norte on Aug 19, 2016 19:30:50 GMT
Xxi vs gast What if xxi unfused gast. Then gast would have his wish and he would forfeit. I don't know why not. It makes sense for it to be main protagonist vs main antagonist. Never thought of that lol I guess that would work. Funny that XXI has access to someone/something that can apparently answer any questions yet he desesperately needs the dragon balls. Hmm, such mystery... Another 'outside-of-tournament' prediction, involving XXI: Yamcha will be the one defeating him! Or at least he will have the upper hand for some time. How so? Well, it appears in Baddack's visions that (according to Piccolo or maybe Gast) something or someone will threaten all the universes so it most likely involve the Tournament. In the vision, Yamcha is telling someone (possibly the threat): 'you defeated everybody but you can't even touch me'. Who could he be talking to? I guess it could be Vegetto or Buu running out of ki after defeating a bunch of other fighters but I doubt it. XXI running out of magic and getting finally exposed would make more sense to me as he's not a fighter (as far as we're concerned) and he would possibly be vulnerable to any fighter still standing. Yamcha's reaction to 18's defeat could be a foreshadow of the drama between them.
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Post by RoseRed on Aug 20, 2016 16:27:30 GMT
Another 'outside-of-tournament' prediction, involving XXI: Yamcha will be the one defeating him! Or at least he will have the upper hand for some time. How so? Well, it appears in Baddack's visions that (according to Piccolo or maybe Gast) something or someone will threaten all the universes so it most likely involve the Tournament. In the vision, Yamcha is telling someone (possibly the threat): 'you defeated everybody but you can't even touch me'. Who could he be talking to? I guess it could be Vegetto or Buu running out of ki after defeating a bunch of other fighters but I doubt it. XXI running out of magic and getting finally exposed would make more sense to me as he's not a fighter (as far as we're concerned) and he would possibly be vulnerable to any fighter still standing. Yamcha's reaction to 18's defeat could be a foreshadow of the drama between them. I like where this is going, XXI had to use a shutdown switch to defeat 18, Yamcha may not be affected by such a thing, due to it being likely that U9 Bulma removed it, along with the bomb. While the scene where he's asking how to defeat 18 was likely shown that he gets help from some mysterious being, why couldn't he just send 18 to the same dimension Vegitto was? It seems like it would be effective against most opponents, even by increasing the rate of time passing. The more I think about it, XXI either can't use the same "Magic" twice, or that cyborg/androids aren't affected by his magic.
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Post by Archon on Aug 20, 2016 19:05:07 GMT
Another 'outside-of-tournament' prediction, involving XXI: Yamcha will be the one defeating him! Or at least he will have the upper hand for some time. How so? Well, it appears in Baddack's visions that (according to Piccolo or maybe Gast) something or someone will threaten all the universes so it most likely involve the Tournament. In the vision, Yamcha is telling someone (possibly the threat): 'you defeated everybody but you can't even touch me'. Who could he be talking to? I guess it could be Vegetto or Buu running out of ki after defeating a bunch of other fighters but I doubt it. XXI running out of magic and getting finally exposed would make more sense to me as he's not a fighter (as far as we're concerned) and he would possibly be vulnerable to any fighter still standing. Yamcha's reaction to 18's defeat could be a foreshadow of the drama between them. I like where this is going, XXI had to use a shutdown switch to defeat 18, Yamcha may not be affected by such a thing, due to it being likely that U9 Bulma removed it, along with the bomb. While the scene where he's asking how to defeat 18 was likely shown that he gets help from some mysterious being, why couldn't he just send 18 to the same dimension Vegitto was? It seems like it would be effective against most opponents, even by increasing the rate of time passing. The more I think about it, XXI either can't use the same "Magic" twice, or that cyborg/androids aren't affected by his magic. @kaio I don't think it's been stated anywhere that XXI 'needs' the dragonballs he's just there for his own reasons which adds to his mystery. @rose Also I don't think he 'needed' to use the remote to defeat 18. I think he's going out of his way to use his true powers (ie his fight against Vegetto) as little as possible.
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Post by Kaio del Norte on Aug 20, 2016 19:41:48 GMT
I don't think it's been stated anywhere that XXI 'needs' the dragonballs he's just there for his own reasons which adds to his mystery. @rose Also I don't think he 'needed' to use the remote to defeat 18. I think he's going out of his way to use his true powers (ie his fight against Vegetto) as little as possible. Yes, he does. www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-956.html#h_readBut I agree about him showing as little of his true power as possible. @rose I also don't think he's gonna use the same trick twice. Many people, including some of the organizers, were not that happy with the fight against Vegetto and asked for a rematch. The way XXI won was a genius move on a writing point of view (Vegetto's participation was making most of the fights obsolete and he lost without his almight being tarnished) but I don't think they would make XXI the winner if he used the same trick and over. Spectators are here for entertainment, god dammit!
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Post by Dr. Wheelo on Aug 20, 2016 20:16:06 GMT
A prediction for the next fight.
I think Raichi will have his Ghost Hirudegarn transform in the next fight, he can bring out the most from his ghosts, and I think it would be a waste to bring in Hirudegarn and not have him reach his full power. It would give him the boost he needs to go from someone who can defend against Cell to someone who can defend against Gast.
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Post by Archon on Aug 20, 2016 20:20:56 GMT
A prediction for the next fight. I think Raichi will have his Ghost Hirudegarn transform in the next fight, he can bring out the most from his ghosts, and I think it would be a waste to bring in Hirudegarn and not have him reach his full power. It would give him the boost he needs to go from someone who can defend against Cell to someone who can defend against Gast. You could say he has the ghosts with the most. (Don't kill me) @kaio Huh I guess you're right. I must have read that page too fast or something.
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 24, 2016 15:09:52 GMT
Ok after looking over the charts and backstory.
Third Round
Raichi beats Gast because of Bardok's vision. It only makes sense if a Sayian defeats Raichi
Fourth Round
Uub Beats Goku. Uub is more powerful then mystic Gohan, and has had his magic unleashed. (He can sense chi even better then gohan, able to tell Bra was still alive.)
Vegeta Vs Cell. Vegeta wins, showing off his trump card. Then gets pissed that Goku "Surrendered."
Xxi Vs Buu. Buu takes this, but Xxi is absorbed to cause mischif later.
Raichi vs Bra Bra wins, fulfilling vision.... however is disqualified... Cold healed from the earlier attack claims Bra left the stadium to get senzu beans during the fight, Unable to prove she didn't Bra is disqualified.... and all hell breaks loose.
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Post by Akroma on Aug 24, 2016 15:42:51 GMT
Cold healed from the earlier attack claims Bra left the stadium to get senzu beans during the fight, Unable to prove she didn't Bra is disqualified.... and all hell breaks loose. The accuser is the one who needs to prove, not the accused.
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 24, 2016 15:57:35 GMT
Cold healed from the earlier attack claims Bra left the stadium to get senzu beans during the fight, Unable to prove she didn't Bra is disqualified.... and all hell breaks loose. The accuser is the one who needs to prove, not the accused. Against anyone not a idiot you are true... but do you really think the Vagras are smart enough to ask for proof... They aren't the smartest bird in the tree.
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Post by Lord Rime on Aug 24, 2016 16:06:00 GMT
Against anyone not a idiot you are true... but do you really think the Vagras are smart enough to ask for proof... They aren't the smartest bird in the tree. Yeah...no. That just plain wouldn't work and would obviously be desperation on the part of Cold.
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 24, 2016 16:09:53 GMT
Against anyone not a idiot you are true... but do you really think the Vagras are smart enough to ask for proof... They aren't the smartest bird in the tree. Yeah...no. That just plain wouldn't work and would obviously be desperation on the part of Cold. Cold never has been desperate has he. I think I have seen him begging for his life against trunks.
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Post by Archon on Aug 25, 2016 1:17:32 GMT
Ok after looking over the charts and backstory. Third RoundRaichi beats Gast because of Bardok's vision. It only makes sense if a Sayian defeats Raichi Fourth Round Uub Beats Goku. Uub is more powerful then mystic Gohan, and has had his magic unleashed. (He can sense chi even better then gohan, able to tell Bra was still alive.) Vegeta Vs Cell. Vegeta wins, showing off his trump card. Then gets pissed that Goku "Surrendered." Xxi Vs Buu. Buu takes this, but Xxi is absorbed to cause mischif later. Raichi vs Bra Bra wins, fulfilling vision.... however is disqualified... Cold healed from the earlier attack claims Bra left the stadium to get senzu beans during the fight, Unable to prove she didn't Bra is disqualified.... and all hell breaks loose. If the disqualify over senzu happens in Raichi I'll be pissed. Burden of proof is to have evidence she DID do that. If they can't prove she did it then they can't disqualify her.
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