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Post by Axalon on Apr 15, 2018 14:17:28 GMT
Basically yes, as is the last line, top to bottom on the right a win. ;D Legit question- Can we count the Androids as human? Because not to be 'that guy' but in this i'm fairly certain they're only referring to the un-augmented humans (Tien, Krillin, Roshi) For the purposes of the bingo board I believe they weren't counting the Androids as human.
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Apr 25, 2018 3:00:09 GMT
Wanted to share this gem, wasn't sure where it was supposed to go. Can be played in 1.0x speed, or 1.25x speed and the latter still retains its epicness.
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Post by Kirasha on May 17, 2018 12:58:48 GMT
Character Designs for the upcoming movie:
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Post by Axalon on May 17, 2018 17:58:28 GMT
I like the designs, has a sharper 90's DBZ look to it compared to Super's angles, also since the darker blue on Vegeta's armor and Goku's longer belt evoke more of a Namek Saga vibe. I honestly don't see anything different with Piccolo, but maybe I'm just missing something, but dammit Beerus and Whis are coming back again? I love the pair, but man these guys kill any tension if they're anywhere near a battle. Even with the slow climb up to God of Destruction Tier through all of DBS so far with Whis around it still doesn't matter, especially since he can revive people on a whim and rewind time. Hopefully they're handled better than they were in: - RoF where they just stood by and protected anyone not named Goku or Vegeta from Frieza's wrath while eating cake and being an even faster reset button than ever before in DB. - Zamasu Saga where they just didn't participate at all except for HAKAI-ing Present Zamasu who was only SS2-tier to begin with. - Any Tournament Saga where they get reduced to commentators no better than Roshi or Piccolo. Speaking of Piccolo...sigh. Wonder what this poor guy will end up doing this time around. I would've guessed he's there for exposition but with Whis around that job falls to him lately. Maybe he can provide flawed exposition for Whis to correct later? Job to some lesser form of the antagonist so Vegeta can beat that form so he can job to the new form so Goku can win by getting another new form? Super Saiyan God Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan 4? Forget he can stretch his arms to save himself again? Not hear something with his super hearing that could be vital? Stand there doing nothing and look cool with the wind flowing through his cape? Yell at Gohan for slacking off again (and still being unable to DODGE)? So many possibilities.
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Post by Ashanark on May 17, 2018 19:28:23 GMT
"We need character designs for the new movie" --> Submits exact same designs the characters have had for decades --> Easiest money Toriyama's ever made Speaking of Piccolo...sigh. Wonder what this poor guy will end up doing this time around. I would've guessed he's there for exposition but with Whis around that job falls to him lately. Maybe he can provide flawed exposition for Whis to correct later? Job to some lesser form of the antagonist so Vegeta can beat that form so he can job to the new form so Goku can win by getting another new form? Super Saiyan God Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan 4? Forget he can stretch his arms to save himself again? Not hear something with his super hearing that could be vital? Stand there doing nothing and look cool with the wind flowing through his cape? Yell at Gohan for slacking off again (and still being unable to DODGE)? So many possibilities. It's...really painful how true this is. I'm betting for flawed exposition, personally. Ugh, Dragon Ball gets more frustrating the older I get. At age 8 I loved seeing Goku do everything, but now I'm miffed Toriyama came up with all these excellent character concepts yet does such a poor job using them. On a tangential note, one of the reasons I actually like the Garlic Jr. mini-arc is because Goku and Vegeta had nothing to do with it.
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Post by R I P I R I U S on May 18, 2018 5:59:47 GMT
LMFAO DRAGON BALL HEROES IS GETTING ITS OWN ANIME! OOF! MORE LIKE PROMOTIONAL ANIME TO MAKE MORE MONEY OFF THEIR GAME HUEHUEHUE NEXT WE GET A XENOVERSE ANIME COZ, WHY NOT HUEHUEHUE THEN THEY REMAKE GT AND RUN PARALLEL TIMELINE ANIMES COZ WHY THE pretty please NOT THEN JUST MAKE A DB FOREVER ANIME THAT HAS GT, XENOVERSE, SUPER AND HEROES!!! THEN IN SOME DISTANT FUTURE, DBM GETS AN ANIME AND STOMPS AT ALL PREVIOUS VERSIONS HUEHUEHUE
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Post by Axalon on May 21, 2018 4:00:34 GMT
"We need character designs for the new movie" --> Submits exact same designs the characters have had for decades --> Easiest money Toriyama's ever made Speaking of Piccolo...sigh. Wonder what this poor guy will end up doing this time around. I would've guessed he's there for exposition but with Whis around that job falls to him lately. Maybe he can provide flawed exposition for Whis to correct later? Job to some lesser form of the antagonist so Vegeta can beat that form so he can job to the new form so Goku can win by getting another new form? Super Saiyan God Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan 4? Forget he can stretch his arms to save himself again? Not hear something with his super hearing that could be vital? Stand there doing nothing and look cool with the wind flowing through his cape? Yell at Gohan for slacking off again (and still being unable to DODGE)? So many possibilities. It's...really painful how true this is. I'm betting for flawed exposition, personally. Ugh, Dragon Ball gets more frustrating the older I get. At age 8 I loved seeing Goku do everything, but now I'm miffed Toriyama came up with all these excellent character concepts yet does such a poor job using them. On a tangential note, one of the reasons I actually like the Garlic Jr. mini-arc is because Goku and Vegeta had nothing to do with it. I really need to re-watch Garlic Jr. arc at some point. Looking back at it I like the concept more than I did back then purely for the bolded statement above. Piccolo is the strongest Z Fighter available since Goku refuses to come home and Vegeta blasts off into space to become a Super Saiyan, Kami and Gohan are both integral to the plot and have history with the villain, the villain himself literally can't be killed so just punching him really, really hard is NOT the answer to beating him (even though Piccolo re-uses the long since forgotten Great Namek transformation to even the odds a bit for a while) and overall it was nice seeing Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo and Kami work together. Garlic Jr wasn't even half as strong as Frieza, but for the purposes of his arc he didn't need to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 3:51:29 GMT
New interview with the editor Akio Iyoku. What I found interesting was this part of the interview: The Dragon Ball Super movie project began in the spring of 2017 when Toei began pitching ideas to Toriyama. All of these ideas were flat-out rejected, so Toriyama began communicating via email his own ideas for the Dragon Ball Super movie’s story. Toriyama also meets with Toei staff every couple months to review progress on the new Dragon Ball project.
I assume some of these rejected Toei ideas involved a super powerful alien attacking the Earth or wanting to pick a fight with Goku. We technically already got that in DBS in the form of the Gods of Destruction who were mortals that trained throughout their lives and the God tier mortals such as Hit, Toppo, and Jiren. Here's my theory as to why Toriyama specifically chose a new Saiyan as the antagonist.
A new evil SSJ is also one of the more common ideas due to it being easier to just come up with a powerful enemy the same race as the heroes. That could be part of it but the reason could also have to due with Goku's power at this point in the story. Ultra Instinct is the technique/form that the Gods of Destruction have struggled to attain so presumably UI Goku has surpassed all of them to become the most powerful mortal in the multiverse. What if Toriyama felt that the only enemy that could challenge UI Goku is another Saiyan? Not just any Saiyan but the most ancientest and legendariest Saiyan of all time!
It's just a theory but it could work as Goku's final battle before he "retires" to train Uub in a few years. We have no idea if DBS is intended to return and based on what this editor is saying it all depends on Toriyama. This could also be why Toei decided to make a Heroes anime now despite Heroes debuting in 2010. They might not be willing to continue the official story without Toriyama but are okay with working on an alternate universe spin-off. The last few iterations of Kitaro, the anime that replaced DBS's timeslot, lasted over 100 episodes so at the very least this anime probably won't end until 2020.
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Post by Son Pan on Jun 15, 2018 16:49:22 GMT
I think with Toriyama is he tries to always ring the bell as loud as he can and constantly tries to overtop himself, thus he has less options. Everything or everyone has to be the strongest ever until a new thing is introduced and so on and so on until he has less and less ideas. He never really has a cool down period or makes an antagonist that is only slightly stronger than the last one. Saiyan antagonist sounds like the idea he would come up with to both surprise the audience and introduce more lore to it. If he rejected ideas I don’t think it is correlated to them not thinking up believable ways to make new villains so much as they may just be what Toriyama considers not fitting well.
Rather this ties up to ending the Dragon shall franchise back to Goku training Uub and end it there I have no idea, but I’m sure it depends on how long he wants to continue come up for ideas for Toei Animation and finally gets tired of working on Dragon Ball again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 4:31:57 GMT
Son PanToriyama thought RoF was a good idea after listening to a song about Freeza so Toei's recent ideas might've been even worse or he may have felt that they were too similar to ideas he's done before. If they suggested a new UI tier alien, he wouldn't be all that different than Jiren and also someone who trained really hard but had no interest in becoming a God of Destruction. We saw all the Gods of Destruction and Angels and most of them seemed like decent guys (Quitela was an asshole but no one psychotic like Zamasu). Any rogue God of Destruction or Angel would probably meet the same fate as Zamasu if they happened to be too much for the heroes. I'm not sure what kind of ideas Toei came up with but maybe Toriyama felt this idea would offer something new. It makes me wonder what the motive is of this new Saiyan antagonist. I can't see him being an insane berserker like Broly since he would have more than enough power to obliterate the entire universe if he wanted to. I hope there's more to it than him waking up from his long slumber and deciding to challenge the strongest Saiyan he could find.
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Post by The Masterman on Jun 20, 2018 23:00:49 GMT
Great news: Dragonball Super part 4 is on dvd and blu-ray which means the first 52 episodes of DBS are now available!
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Post by Namikaze on Jun 21, 2018 6:41:40 GMT
Elsewhere, in another timeline created by Trunks.
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Post by Namikaze on Jun 21, 2018 7:25:44 GMT
Elsewhere, in another timeline created by Trunks. LMAAAAOOOOO!! MY BOI YOU BEEN GONE FOR A WHOLE MONTH AND THIS THE FIRST THING YOU DO?!
Lol I dig it. Welcome back Thanks. Life's been killer lately so I hope to spend more time here when I can.
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Post by Xeno Black on Jul 1, 2018 19:54:50 GMT
Oh yeah, I should probably link this bullshit or something right?
Here you go nerds. It won't be getting a dub and it's not gonna be released legally outside of Japan so this is the best you'll get. Enjoy. Already looks better than Super by miles. And the fact it has Cooler. I love that bastard.
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 1, 2018 21:23:16 GMT
I am going to be that guy and say seeing them side by side makes me realize how much cooler SS4 looks compared to SSB. Even the pink fur seems better since the later forms also just used different colors for SS forms.
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Post by Kirasha on Jul 2, 2018 15:55:06 GMT
Xeno Goku seemed to be a lot more mature as well, being more serious, unlike Super Goku.
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 2, 2018 18:27:46 GMT
Not going to lie I want Xeno Goku to replace the main Goku as protagonist now. He awesome gi and power pole that was a good blend of new and old to make Goku stand out. He reminded me of older Goku we got in Z a bit more. Now that is not me saying Goku wasn’t silly or anything because he was always silly and could be dumb at times, but it seemed like he knew when to be serious more than the main Goku. If I could have Xeno Goku with DBS Vegeta and DBM Gohan than I think I would have my favorite trio of those Saiyans on the same team.
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Post by R I P I R I U S on Jul 3, 2018 4:59:09 GMT
I feel the direction was bit rushed. Could but well, its OK. They could have taken 2 more mins and made it more better.
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Post by Son Pan on Jul 4, 2018 7:32:19 GMT
It looks like this will be a series of shorts rather than a full length series. It is likely going to be very rushed, not really have much of a story or world building. If this was at least 20 minutes more could have been done to build things up, but looks like they aren't going for that.
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Post by Namikaze on Jul 4, 2018 23:22:51 GMT
I always had this headcanon that Xeno Goku is the "ultimate" Goku that's comprised of all timelines and has all their respective "Goku" powers to his usage.
That being said, I would like to think the ultimate Goku has to be "a hero's legacy" immortal Goku.
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