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Post by Kor Saiyajinkami on Jul 9, 2018 19:13:50 GMT
So guys have you heard the news yet? Unless it's a really elaborate hoax, it would seem that Broly is gonna be the villain in the new Dragon Ball Super movie. I had a feeling that when Kale was introduced as pretty much a female Broly that Toriyama was testing the waters to see how the community would react to a Broly-type character, so he could bring us his take on Broly. I'm pretty hyped and I really hope that we finally get a new version of Broly with a much better backstory.
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Post by Namikaze on Jul 9, 2018 20:02:30 GMT
For a second I thought the guy in the background was Yamcha and thought, "why does Yamcha look so badass here?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 20:06:06 GMT
Oooooooof course he is.....
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Post by Kor Saiyajinkami on Jul 9, 2018 20:46:32 GMT
Awww you fucks beat me to it. Was just about to post this in the Super General thread but glad I made sure first.
So:
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIIIIIIIIS?!?!?!?! IS BROLY ABOUT TO LITERALLY BE CANON?! IN THIS, THE YEAR OF 2018!?!?!
Yes I beat you to it. Mwahahahaha!!!
Yes it would seem so unless of course this is some super elaborate prank. I actually saw this coming way back when we were introduced to Kale's Berserker form *cough*LSSJ*cough*. Toriyama was just testing the waters with her in preparation for re-introducing his re-imagined Broly. I'm all for this especially if he does justice to Broly's backstory unlike Toei and their crappy Broly hating Goku because he cried as a baby crap.
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Post by Namikaze on Jul 9, 2018 21:09:12 GMT
Awww you fucks beat me to it. Was just about to post this in the Super General thread but glad I made sure first.
So:
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIIIIIIIIS?!?!?!?! IS BROLY ABOUT TO LITERALLY BE CANON?! IN THIS, THE YEAR OF 2018!?!?!
Alright. Alright. So... Translations.
The big text on the side:
"The greatest enemy, Saiyan."
Big text under "Broly":
Literally just repeats his name lmao...
Pretty sure below that is just credits, so nothing new to translate.
So this brings a theory I've seen floating around. The Bardock special, the first Broly movie, and Fusion Reborn are being remastered for theaters. What do y'all think of the possibility that they were being remastered in preparation for this movie, and Gogeta might be featured next?
Also worth mentioning this Broly seems redesigned. So it might just be a different "Broly" altogether, which to me is unnecessary if they're just gonna make them the same in almost every other way. Gonna be honest and say that I'll be pretty disappointed if this turns out to be the case and this movie is only them going with what's "popular" instead of anything original. A few months ago I thought the green aura was just a coincidence when others were calling out "Broly rip-off" but now I don't really know what to think now since Broly's name is literally on the title itself. Even the fan design on deviantart looked more original and appealing than the "Yamcha" one we have above. This also doesn't bide well for Kale if this guy winds up being cool or interesting in any way as that'll make two characters that were handled better with the "uncontrollable monster" shtick further validating her into Goten territory as nothing more than Caulifla's totally-not-lesbian fusion fuck buddy sidekick. Criticisms aside, I do like this "Broly's" design and the fiery blue aura that's illuminating from Goku & Vegeta as it's consistent with the red fire from SSG. The expression in this "Broly" seems concerned... almost like he's a good guy and something else is afoot?
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Jul 9, 2018 21:22:23 GMT
Eh... I'll wait to the movie. But consider me only as hyped as I was for Golden Freeza. RoF was not very good, even if it set precedent for Freeza's participation in the tournament and other insane power ups.
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Post by Blaze on Jul 9, 2018 21:44:53 GMT
Well. It seems that Toriyama is pulling a Salagir.
This is honestly absolutely hilarious to me.
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Post by Xeno Black on Jul 9, 2018 21:46:33 GMT
Truth be told if this is like the first Broly movie (massive beatdowns, Broly having some cognition, epic music) then I am game. Broly LSSJ transformation is one of my all time favorite scenes and seeing that again in today's technology would be sweet. I wonder if Kale, Caulfila, or yamoshi would be shown? Or if any of the original Broly movies will be mentioned in past reference.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 22:23:55 GMT
WEN BROLY 4?
I saw that tori is going to apparantly rework him a bit. I am slightly hopeful that he will be at least improved from just screaming Kakarot for 60 mins
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Post by Namikaze on Jul 9, 2018 22:29:32 GMT
So an entirely different Broly, eh? Is he from Universe 7 because if so, where has he been for all this time? Why didn't Shin or Whis bring him up and have him participate in the Tournament? The spaceship implies he was shipped off like Goku before Frieza blew everything up(which I assume is his involvement in this entire thing). I don't see the wish #17 made coming back to fruition unless he's from an era of Saiyans that got destroyed back then by Zeno... wait, is this Absalon? I actually would like that. If he is from the Frieza era like I mentioned, are there possibly still Saiyans out there? Xeno Black Funny you bring up Caulifla and Kale because I was actually thinking of how dangerous these new threats are getting and pictured Grand Priest forming an ultimate team like the Justice League or Avengers comprised of fighters like Goku, Vegeta, Hit, Jiren, Toppo and possibly more to combat them. Depending on the strength of this guy and the damage that ensues... it could happen.
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Post by Azoth on Jul 9, 2018 22:39:31 GMT
Broly with actual character? That'd be great!
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Post by iron leaf on Jul 9, 2018 22:57:56 GMT
I have really mixed feelings. I really want to be hyped about this, I always was fond of the idea about 2 different legends about Saiyans. Once the legendary Saiyan and once the Super Saiyan. And the idea that everybody gets them both always mixed up (or maybe that's just my headcanon). But when I think about the last couple of years. I was taught that I shall always judge a person for his actions rather than his words(/skin/race/etc). Then I look at Resurrection of F, DBS in general, Dragonball Minus. All that new stuff trying to grasp on the old Dragonball spirit and our nostalgia. Trolliyama's attempt to revive the franchise just like Geroge Lucas did. All of this made me hollow. I don't feel anything from 21st century Toei animation anymore. I don't believe them anymore. I got sick of getting on my knees and praying that they not ruining characters by bringing them back with questionable character development or with new interpretations. At least there is still a possibility that I can be positively surprised. Sigh.
(I better leave this thread, just getting depresed again at the thought how the movie can turn out looking at Toeyama's track record for the last years)
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Jul 10, 2018 1:50:54 GMT
Broly? Broly!? BROLY!!!I am both interested and disappointed to hear that the next movie is about Broly. Interested to see how they're planning to "Fix" Broly other than the attempt with Kale, because hey, apparently 4th time is the charm. But what about Bio-Broly? HE DOESN'T COUNT YOU Bio-BROLY FANS!!! Disappointed seeing how we had the RoF and Goku Black sagas, and even then, both main villains had severe issues with them. 4 months of a power leap and a guy impersonating an evil version of Goku? Nah screw those ideas. With Broly, I'm not sure how much you can change a madman's personality until you end up creating a new character completely who is similar to Broly, or the opposite and barely making much change to Broly's character and end up making this villain "Broly but in 2018."
I think this ended up more of a rant rather than an analysis because of a default mindset "Oh Gami Kai, not Broly again, when will he die!?" Eh, enjoy the peace now until the Broly fans make a resurgence over YouTube and Social Media.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 2:45:22 GMT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't believe it! Broly is back to reclaim his title of legendariest LSSJ! Fuck SSJGod! Fuck SSJBlue! I hope it's a glorious battle sensed throughout the multiverse! Kale: I want to have his babies! Jiren: I'm glad that guy didn't enter the tournament! Gowasu: That fellow would've beaten the immortality out of Zamasu! I'm looking forward to seeing this new side of Broly! Base Broly looks kinda sad in the poster so maybe they'll have a Bruce Banner/Hulk thing going. I don't think Toei/Toriyama have a good track record when it comes to returning characters but Broly is only known for being a ruthless Saiyan juggernaut with a really dopey reason for hating Goku so they can't make him much worse. It was only in Second Coming that he was dumbed down and could only yell Kakarot but they'll likely avoid that. Looking back the only returning character that I enjoyed was #17 but I would've preferred if they put some effort into his power-up. Everyone else... Bardock: Everything I did like about Bardock came from his original TV special. DB Minus didn't add anything worthwhile to his character and only rewrote Goku's backstory to be even more similar to Superman's. Now instead of Goku being sent to Earth to wipe out his civilization, his loving parents sent him there to protect him from their home planet's destruction. Freeza: RoF...yeah I think this is what started the meme with fans joking about Toriyama stealing from fanfiction. If someone came to me a few years ago and asked me what I thought of their fanfic about Freeza obtaining a golden form that surpasses the strongest characters of the Buu saga within four months to battle a blue-haired SSJ1 Goku, I would question which dumpster fire of shit tier AF storylines did they try to salvage this idea from. He had a few nice moments in the ToP but not enough to make up for RoF in my opinion and I felt it was incredibly forced how they tried setting up those moments of fanservice. Both Toppo and Jiren beat the shit out of Freeza but they only knock him out. For some reason, two guys at least as powerful as a God of Destruction decide to not exert the extra bit of effort to eliminate him. Trunks: I enjoyed seeing the character himself again but I hated the ending and how Trunks was left off even worse than before. This one of the reasons why I thought Jiren's backstory is such a joke because it came in a saga after Trunks had just lost his entire timeline and everyone in it besides from his girlfriend. You can't make a character more tragic in Dragonball than Future Trunks! Well. It seems that Toriyama is pulling a Salagir. This is honestly absolutely hilarious to me. Salagir will now be accused of nerfing Broly .
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Jul 10, 2018 3:27:45 GMT
Will this really be the same Broly, or only in design though? Given they're including all this Saiyan stuff and Freeza, and how they did not say anything in regards to Kale (neither in manga or anime) it is more likely than not that all his previous movies will be rendered invalid.
Not that I care though. They really didn't make sense from an in-story point of view. So in a way this is truly a new character, much like U16 Bra is. What?! New Broly is Old Broly + Bra?! Now Salagir can't be critiqued in those aspects.
I've got to say, I liked the "Ancient Saiyan" idea more. Either way, wonder if this is a last moment decision? Dude in trailers had a green aura but did not look much like Broly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 4:13:07 GMT
Conqueror GengThat's true, they likely would've brought up Broly when Kale transformed it his movies took place in DBS. Maybe they hadn't started on this movie at the time of that episode? I do wonder how much Toriyama will change about Broly and his movies. If it's going to be so much that the only thing they share is the name then it might've been easier to create a new ancient Saiyan entirely. I read that the first full trailer will be released later this month so hopefully we get more information.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 6:31:03 GMT
I just wanna know how he works in Broly's apparent "non" existence for all these years. I mean you don't just accidentally LSSJ upon meeting other Saiyans for the very first time so how in fucks name has he managed to stay under the radar these past (in universe) 3 decades.
I know I said I would boycott this movie a while back but after reading a few of these posts (thanks, arseholes.....) my curiosity is piqued and I must find out first hand how Broly has been changed and hope he has been completely reworked, other than his general visual design of course.
One thing is a dead cert, I am either gonna FUCKING LOVE this movie or absolutely hate it to bits. There will (should) be no in between for if there is then my pashun for DB is effectively dead and gone outside of DBM and that will make me sad in the pants.
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Jul 10, 2018 6:43:30 GMT
I just wanna know how he works in Broly's apparent "non" existence for all these years. I mean you don't just accidentally LSSJ upon meeting other Saiyans for the very first time so how in fucks name has he managed to stay under the radar these past (in universe) 3 decades.
I know I said I would boycott this movie a while back but after reading a few of these posts (thanks, arseholes.....) my curiosity is piqued and I must find out first hand how Broly has been changed and hope he has been completely reworked, other than his general visual design of course.
One thing is a dead cert, I am either gonna FUCKING LOVE this movie or absolutely hate it to bits. There will (should) be no in between for if there is then my pashun for DB is effectively dead and gone outside of DBM and that will make me sad in the pants.
It might be the same as how Buu was hidden in DB but (yes yes, he was thought of AFTER the Cell saga) everyone "somehow" didn't sense him... the same way nobody sensed SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten... plot. I just realized Axalon is gonna have a heart attack after hearing that we'll get another Broly movie... wHy nOt tAg hIm aS wElL!? gEnIuS!!! Axalon ... nah legit, he was the one who brought up the argument of Ki sensing and why ppl didn't notice the SSJ Kids a while back, guess it relates to this a bit.
Plus, didn't the first trailer show Goku in the glaciers? I guess Neo Broly was frozen in the mountains for so long and so deep under that nobody would've noticed a humanoid trapped in the ice. [And if Go and Co. had fought in places other than wastelands, we would've been to better places like these mountains!!! But nooo, gotta go fight in the wastelands, not like you'll find anything interesting under the dirt here. Darn you Goku for going to the same old boring places, couldn't have thought of a new place for your burial!!!]
I would've said something about Zeno restoring him from a previous erasure, but then I remembered 17's wish was specifically "Restore all the Erased Universes."... Wait a minute, FROST CAME BACK EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ERASED BEFORE U6 WAS ERASED!!! IT'S POSSIBLE ZENO ERASED THIS BROLY LONG AGO AND 17 BROUGHT HIM BACK!!!
Edit: I swear if I get this AND the Yamcha prediction correct, Imma start calling myself "The Son of Bardock"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 7:18:28 GMT
I get what you're tryin to say The Retro Kakarotto but this is the LSSJ so 1: where the literal fuck do you hide one of those and 2: No one no where and no how managed to sense him usin that form even for a bit? Besides he couldn't have been hiding too well given his manly facial @skar. No doubt 20 mins will be wasted showing us how he got it..... I dunno mate, depends on how they handle this so no real point in gettin my me's rustled before I have seen it but my expectations could not be lower.
I haven't watched any trailers or promos or w/e about this movie since I was boycotting it so I guess I'll have to give those a squiz but with that said they revised a few bits in the previous movies after fans said WTF n whatnot so don't be surprised if the earlier teasers literally amount to zilch.
Fuck I hate myself for allowin you pricks to get me sucked into this.
Just read the thread for a cheap laugh Jim, your integrity's got this champ........
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Post by bk81 on Jul 10, 2018 17:38:11 GMT
Well, from what I understood, the only thing this Broly has in common with the old Broly is the name and some features like the muscles and the colors. If Toriyama says he "rearranged" him, he might be completely a different person XD Maybe he even has some brain... The canon-debates will go nuts! I wonder how they tie him in with the story... I hope they don't screw it up.
It might be me, but his back is much to big for this little head... it looks strange for a base. But I love the auras of Goku and Vegeta!
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