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Post by Axalon on Sept 1, 2018 3:36:38 GMT
Seeing as Super seems to follow the pattern that lack of work does mean lack of strength, I'm inclined to believe that Sidra who doesn't fulfill his duties as a GoD probably also slacks off in his training as well and therefore is probably the weakest GoD. As for Beerus being in the running for GoD that works the least, I'm not so sure about that. Sure he may pass off some work to others like Frieza and even with that we don't even know if that was more than a one time thing. Also based off the info we received about Beerus prior to the introduction of other GoDs, it sounds like the GoDs are supposed to take breaks in between periods of destruction to allow for new creation to happen. So what does it matter that Beerus chooses to spend his time off sleeping? [/div][/quote] Because Sidra is indecisive about his destruction. That's his biggest flaw as God of Destruction. He waffles on whether a planet should be destroyed or not. I'm saying that this should have no impact on his strength, as it would be like grading Gohan's strength on his actual academic grades and not his power level. ...That is perhaps not the best example given how his power level declines in contrast to devotion to his studies, but I hope the point is made. Conversely, Beerus spends much of his time sleeping since he's based on a cat, and then this is exaggerated for the sake of humor. Despite sleeping all the time, he's shown that he's well able to hold his own against his fellow GoDs even when they all try to gank him. Also, lest we forget, it was Sidra who was the only one quick enough to react to Beerus while other supposedly "more powerful" gods were caught completely off-guard. This is in spite of all the other targeted GoDs knowing where Beerus was and Beerus taunting them before attacking. Look at that sucker Geene for instance. All he's managed to do is put his arms up to try and ward off the blast while thanking Sidra for saving them all. You could try and thread a needle here and say "Oh well that just means Sidra's faster at making barriers, not overall speed" but that just means Sidra's faster at concentrating his ki AND putting up a barrier to deflect a Beerus-level attack in the time it takes Geene to even realize he's being fired at and meekly bring his arms up to defend himself as his first reaction. Champa doesn't even have that! He's just floating there in shock! And of course this IS Dragon Ball after all, and we all know how power and speed match up... ![](https://i.imgur.com/KL2tl2w.jpg)
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Post by Kor Saiyajinkami on Sept 2, 2018 2:54:48 GMT
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Post by Xeno Black on Sept 3, 2018 3:47:51 GMT
MaStar Media made another fan-film that displays his adaptation for the upcoming film. It is good, and hopefully it satisfies your immediate urges for new content.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 6:19:42 GMT
Am I reading this correctly Xeno Black ? A fan made adaption of a movie that hasn't even been released yet? This shit right here is why I hate Brotard's and NuFanz.
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Post by Kor Saiyajinkami on Sept 13, 2018 20:12:26 GMT
Gogeta has been confirmed for DBS: Broly by one of the animators on the project.
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Post by Kor Saiyajinkami on Sept 16, 2018 20:12:41 GMT
Gogeta has been confirmed for DBS: Broly by one of the animators on the project.
Budokai 3 opening intensifies.
To be fair, XV2 technically already confirmed it with leaks. The guy said he's "practicing" Gogeta, so all I want to know at this point is if by that he meant he was looking at Fusion Reborn art of Gogeta to practice off of or if they gave the animation team new Gogeta concept art (like Broly) and he's practicing that.
I'd say that the XV2 leaks semi-confirmed it and not completely confirmed it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
From a new interview:
@herms98 Sep 29 They close out with general hype for how the movie looks great and should get a response out of people. They reiterate that they've also got overseas audiences in mind, so the action scenes are intense. Apparently that's what us foreign chaps care about.
I think it's easier to be a more casual fan of Dragonball so you don't set your expectations too high and get disappointed. To most fans, Dragonball was just a cool anime they watched years ago and DBS is a fun nostalgia trip. They'll watch it to pass the time and see some epic action but won't give it much thought after it's over. There are tens of millions of fans worldwide and only a few thousand you see on forums analyzing and discussing the series so I guess we're a tiny vocal minority. A lot of us would like to see more effort into the story, character development, more attention given to secondary characters and the next generation but I don't think the majority care about that and not who Toei/Toriyama would mainly try to appeal to.
It's similar to Star Wars fanbase. I've heard from some fans that the Force Awakens was fan service and sort of a remake of one of the original films. Most moviegoers didn't seem to care and mainly looked forward to seeing Star Wars in theaters which is why it did so well at the box office. I was never a huge Star Wars fan and it's been years since I've watched the original trilogy so I didn't really notice the similarities and just thought it was a cool scifi movie.
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Post by supergojita3 on Oct 1, 2018 17:44:13 GMT
From a new interview: @herms98 Sep 29 They close out with general hype for how the movie looks great and should get a response out of people. They reiterate that they've also got overseas audiences in mind, so the action scenes are intense. Apparently that's what us foreign chaps care about.I think it's easier to be a more casual fan of Dragonball so you don't set your expectations too high and get disappointed. To most fans, Dragonball was just a cool anime they watched years ago and DBS is a fun nostalgia trip. They'll watch it to pass the time and see some epic action but won't give it much thought after it's over. There are tens of millions of fans worldwide and only a few thousand you see on forums analyzing and discussing the series so I guess we're a tiny vocal minority. A lot of us would like to see more effort into the story, character development, more attention given to secondary characters and the next generation but I don't think the majority care about that and not who Toei/Toriyama would mainly try to appeal to. It's similar to Star Wars fanbase. I've heard from some fans that the Force Awakens was fan service and sort of a remake of one of the original films. Most moviegoers didn't seem to care and mainly looked forward to seeing Star Wars in theaters which is why it did so well at the box office. I was never a huge Star Wars fan and it's been years since I've watched the original trilogy so I didn't really notice the similarities and just thought it was a cool scifi movie. Thats true. we are kind of a vocal minority.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 15:35:26 GMT
supergojita3I think what's funny is that Toriyama and Toei never really implied that it was going to be more than mainly fan service. They were always clear about wanting to appeal to fans and even mention Broly's huge popularity for why chose him for this movie. Sure, Toriyama might try to add more to his personality but it's obvious no one would care to reboot Broly if he wasn't popular enough. In BoG, Toriyama made it clear why he chose this time period because he felt the cast was too old after EoZ. He could only be referring to the older Saiyans and humans which implies he wasn't planning to use any of the next generation characters. It's only us fans that got our hopes up that it was going to focus on more than just the most popular Z fighters. It's also only in that vocal minority that anyone argued DBS was intended to be as big and grand as the original. DB/Z lasted ten years covering Goku's story from when he was a boy beginning his training (12) to him becoming a martial arts master in his late 40's. It also had years of development for Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc. In comparison, DBS is pretty minor taking place within a timeskip and covers Goku's story from age 42 to 44. All the relevant characters are already adults and developed in DBS so there's no need for any major timeskips. It seems everyone involved in the series only meant to be a minor addition to Dragonball but not a full-fledged sequel like some fans want it to be. Looking at it this way might help to have realistic expectations of what they might do. A lot of fans assume they can get away with anything as long as they include dragonball in the title. That didn't work for them in the past and even bigger franchises have had flops when they try to milk it for too long. Maybe the movie ends in a cliffhnger and gives us an idea of what they plan for next.
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Post by Andres on Oct 4, 2018 16:27:52 GMT
As far as I'm aware there's no English version yet.
I am really NOT for the Dragon Ball Minus bullshit. You beat me by 10 minutes. I was watching this one! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Symbiotic on Oct 4, 2018 17:16:55 GMT
As far as I'm aware there's no English version yet.
I am really NOT for the Dragon Ball Minus bullshit. You beat me by 10 minutes. I was watching this one! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Wow, they're really going in depth with this huh. So much for everyone's fanfics about how the Saiyans got started working for Frieza and how their society worked. I always liked seeing that part in DBZ so no complaints. Oh, Bardock looks awful sinister there. A bit like Turles. Wait - What's this? DB Minus is now really, really canon. ![](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AlarmingHelplessAmericankestrel-size_restricted.gif)
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Post by afanaddict on Oct 4, 2018 18:10:19 GMT
So I just watched it again with the subtitles and just now noticed this, was Frieza's first form design retconned?
i.imgur.com/ttayZt7.jpg
He's missing the shoulder covers and the lines throughout his appendages. Wonder if that's a mistake or something. Maybe it’s just how Frieza looked when he was younger. Him looking the same at those times would be the only thing being technically “retconned”. In my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 19:07:25 GMT
![](https://geeknerd22ducks.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/675549-bardock_manga_2.jpg) In that flashback panel, Freeza looks the same as he did on Namek. Another difference is that he's not wearing when he destroys the planet in the trailer. I assume either Toriyama forgot since he kept the same look for Freeza in Minus or the animators screwed up and maybe Toriyama thought it was too much trouble for them to change. Herms translated the trailer and said that Broly was cast away. It doesn't mention why but I assume it's because they fear Broly's power. It makes me wonder why they don't try to kill him like in the original than risk having him return later. It also says that becomes Paragus's reason for wanting revenge against Vegeta.
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Post by Andres on Oct 4, 2018 19:50:42 GMT
Herms translated the trailer and said that Broly was cast away. It doesn't mention why but I assume it's because they fear Broly's power. It makes me wonder why they don't try to kill him like in the original than risk having him return later. It also says that becomes Paragus's reason for wanting revenge against Vegeta. If I had to guess, I'd say they... just couldn't. If the 10K power level at birth is canon, it wouldn't be so farfetched to believe he could be very well at 50K+ as a kid.
That being said, killing Broly would be out of the question for anyone other than Ginyu, Frieza or Cold himself (that is, if Ginyu was already that strong 20 years in the past)
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Post by The Masterman on Oct 4, 2018 20:16:00 GMT
Fuck dragonball minus...
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Post by Conqueror Geng on Oct 4, 2018 20:20:12 GMT
I was actually pleased to see a Broly movie with background histories initially... But now that the trailer scenes basically just overwritten what happened in the first Bardock special... I can say that am soured.
DBminus will be harder to ignore now.
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Post by Son Pan on Oct 4, 2018 22:13:33 GMT
Eh, at this point I expected it to be a heavy action, Iight show, and fan service at this point. It is harder to be disappointed in something that you know isn’t trying to do more or be better than it was back in the 90s’. This is Dragon Ball now and I’m going to make peace with it. There are other fighting Shonen out there that I like more at this point and try (not necessarily succeed all the time) to give me more than Dragon Ball. Can work has gotten better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 22:17:48 GMT
If I had to guess, I'd say they... just couldn't. If the 10K power level at birth is canon, it wouldn't be so farfetched to believe he could be very well at 50K+ as a kid. That being said, killing Broly would be out of the question for anyone other than Ginyu, Frieza or Cold himself (that is, if Ginyu was already that strong 20 years in the past) True but how would they forcibly cast him away if he's way stronger than them? I think the original made more sense in this case when King Vegeta decided to kill him before he became a threat rather than wait a few years until he far surpassed them and then try to figure out how to deal with him. I don't think the trailer confirms when he was sent away so it might've been shortly after he was born though. We see him as a kid later but that could take place on whatever planet he was sent to.
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Post by The Retro Kakarotto on Oct 4, 2018 22:33:36 GMT
If I had to guess, I'd say they... just couldn't. If the 10K power level at birth is canon, it wouldn't be so farfetched to believe he could be very well at 50K+ as a kid. That being said, killing Broly would be out of the question for anyone other than Ginyu, Frieza or Cold himself (that is, if Ginyu was already that strong 20 years in the past) True but how would they forcibly cast him away if he's way stronger than them? I think the original made more sense in this case when King Vegeta decided to kill him before he became a threat rather than wait a few years until he far surpassed them and then try to figure out how to deal with him. I don't think the trailer confirms when he was sent away so it might've been shortly after he was born though. We see him as a kid later but that could take place on whatever planet he was sent to. To be fair, even a 10K PL baby got stabbed with a dagger in THE REAL BROLY MOVIE Movie 8; he didn't fight back when King Vegeta picked him up by the leg, so I think it's possible to use a sedative while Neo-Broly is in the incubation tube, activate the suspended animation of the space pod (unless this part is not in DB Minus?) then attempt to send him off world... Idk what comes after this, Paragus retrieves Broly while Frieza attacks the planet, he stops the launch, he hitches a wild ride on the exterior of the pod? Second point Can't find the image, gonna edit later, but what about that one scene where Paragus and some other Saiyan with Cabba's armor land in front of a space pod? Maybe Broly did get sent off world after all and it took Paragus a couple of years to track him down while under Frieza's radar?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 1:28:54 GMT
Herms98 The DB Official Site interviews the production staff of DBS: Broly. You'll cry in the first 20-30 minutes of the film! Or so they say. Vegeta's real cool in the film too; it's a change of pace from him lately just being used for gags and/or getting beat up
If the first 20-30 minutes cover DB Minus then I'll definitely be crying because they bothered to include it and waste so much time on it!
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